# Engine misfire but not code

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** mazda\
**Created:** [May 18, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684 "2023-05-18T02:23:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Saucedoroberto44_182934)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/1 "2023-05-18T02:23:38Z")

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Is there a trick to know if a ignition coil is causing a misfire? My car is misfiring but not throwing a code.  
I don’t want to unplug while running because I’ve heard it could do some damage.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/2 "2023-05-18T02:26:23Z")

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If there’s no misfire code, there’s no misfire.

Tester

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**Author:** ![Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Saucedoroberto44_182934)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/3 "2023-05-18T02:32:43Z")

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Yea I figured; was hoping it was simply a misfire. The car exhaust is releasing white smoke and hope it isn’t a head gasket. So could a head gasket cause the engine to run rough or misfire

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/4 "2023-05-18T02:34:52Z")

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> [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](#):
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> So could a head gasket cause the engine to run rough or misfire

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/4/f414502a2e57c4f713469469d6447a56c9b0573d.jpeg)

Tester

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**Author:** ![Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Saucedoroberto44_182934)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/5 "2023-05-18T02:36:17Z")

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☹ I guess it’s time to replace a head gasket

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 5:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/6 "2023-05-18T05:21:57Z")

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What year and model is your Mazda?

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/7 "2023-05-18T11:54:25Z")

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> [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](#):
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> releasing white smoke

Tester nailed it.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/8 "2023-05-18T12:43:06Z")

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> [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](#):
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> I guess it’s time to replace a head gasket

Diagnose first, replace if that diagnosis shows a head gasket. There are products that can test for head gasket leaks. Like this:

[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HKHJ6NY?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HKHJ6NY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)

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**Author:** ![Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Saucedoroberto44_182934)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/9 "2023-05-18T21:51:29Z")

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It’s much worse; I’ve checked the spark plugs and they have oil in them(just a little not soaking)and I checked the air filter and it has a lot of oil on it; now i think it’s the piston rings

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/4/e/4e570918b0ca60f47283e028beee974010d2e2be.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/10 "2023-05-18T21:55:40Z")

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Have you checked if the PCV system is restricted?

Tester

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**Author:** ![Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Saucedoroberto44_182934)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/11 "2023-05-18T21:56:46Z")

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No, I’ll check right now

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**Author:** ![Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Saucedoroberto44_182934)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/12 "2023-05-18T21:57:38Z")

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How do I check that? Do I just check the pcv valve

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/13 "2023-05-18T22:08:49Z")

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Oil on the spark plug tips? That could be good news, at least in relationship to the head gasket fault theory. When coolant leaks into the cylinders via a faulty head gasket, that often steam cleans the spark plugs. Some white smoke out the tailpipe is normal, especially in the first 5-10 minutes after starting a cold engine, & even longer when the ambient temperature is cooler than normal.

There’s a few fairly easy owner-checks for a possible head gasket fault

- the engine will be losing quite a bit of coolant, cup a week or more, but no leaks under the parked car
- the amount of white smoke from the tailpipe w/ warm engine will dramatically increase when rapidly accelerating, like on a freeway on-ramp
- there will often be visible bubbles coming to the top of the radiator (radiator cap removed) as engine idles, more so when increasing the idle rpm.

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**Author:** ![Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Saucedoroberto44\_182934](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Saucedoroberto44_182934)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/14 "2023-05-18T23:00:45Z")

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I’ve checked the pcv and it rattles so I think it is the piston rings

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 11:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/engine-misfire-but-not-code/190684/15 "2023-05-20T11:52:38Z")

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Time to run a compression test.
