# E85 in pre '18 Camry **URL:** \ **Category:** Power/Fuel\ **Tags:** fuel-economy, emissions, toyota, camry, gasoline\ **Created:** [June 16, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679 "2022-06-16T10:07:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ewo79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4da419/32.png) [@Ewo79](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ewo79)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/1 "2022-06-16T10:07:33Z")
Has anyone used E85 in a stock pre 2018 Camry? I have a 2017 and I’m not sure if it will damage my car. With fuel prices being what they are I might try a gallon or two to try it out ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:39am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/2 "2022-06-16T10:39:47Z")
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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/3 "2022-06-16T10:44:35Z")
> [@Ewo79](#): > > I have a 2017 and I’m not sure if it will damage my car. That info would be in the owners manual. > [@Ewo79](#): > > With fuel prices being what they are I might try a gallon or two to try it out Just a couple gallons won’t prove or disprove anything. In my opinion you probably wouldn’t really save much if anything due to the decrease in MPG. You will use more fuel for a given distance, so you may just end up spending just as much on fuel. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/4 "2022-06-16T10:53:23Z")
I’m pretty sure it’s not designed for it and because of the lower energy content of E85 you won’t save any money. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 11:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/5 "2022-06-16T11:13:03Z")
Likely the acceptable fuel is listed on or near the gas cap. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/6 "2022-06-16T11:26:07Z")
Do NOT use E85 in a car that is not Flex Fuel which will be posted inside the gas filler door. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/7 "2022-06-16T12:31:36Z")
We don’t have any E85 fuel around here. I think the closest is in western MA. For the people who’ve seen this fuel…aren’t there warning signs to NOT use unless you own a flex fuel vehicle. We do have a lot of flex fuel vehicles (mainly trucks). ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/8 "2022-06-16T12:38:59Z")
E85 mileage drops 30% compared to e10. And e85 is 20% cheaper. So, it costs more per mile to use it. Biden likes it though. ---
**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/9 "2022-06-16T13:16:21Z")
Hi @Ewo79: As others have noted, when I look at page 508 in your owner’s manual, it describes in detail what types of fuel you can and cannot use in your vehicle. It does explicitly state: > DO NOT use gasoline containing more than 15% ethanol. ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/10 "2022-06-16T13:45:56Z")
> [@JoeMario](#): > > @Ewo79: > As others have noted, when I look at page 508 in your owner’s manual, it describes in detail what types of fuel you can and cannot use in your vehicle. > > It does explicitly state: > > > DO NOT use gasoline containing more than 15% ethanol. @Ewo79 there’s your answer as stated in the owners manual. ---
**Author:** ![ledhed75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@ledhed75](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ledhed75)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/11 "2022-06-16T15:24:26Z")
The money you “save” on fuel may be offset by having to tow the car to the garage, and having the fuel system cleaned out… I don’t even like running E10 in my car…but it’s the most readily available fuel in my area. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/12 "2022-06-16T18:47:13Z")
“DO NOT use gasoline containing more than 15% ethanol.” In that case he could add 1 gallon of E85 to every 20 gallons of E10 and save enough to buy chewing gum. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/13 "2022-06-16T22:41:23Z")
> [@circuitsmith](#): > > In that case he could add 1 gallon of E85 to every 20 gallons Except, even totally dry the Camry tank will only hold about 17Gal. IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/14 "2022-06-16T23:01:23Z")
> [@PvtPublic](#): > > Except, even totally dry the Camry tank will only hold about 17Gal. IIRC. Do the math. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/15 "2022-06-17T12:54:36Z")
A gas station here is selling E15 for $5.20 and E10 for $5.30 and E85 for something like $4.35 per gallon, which works out to be the equivalent of about $6 per gallon. So it costs you more money to use E85, unless you need to use it for a an engine that can only take a high octane racing fuel. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/16 "2022-06-18T13:32:56Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/c/7/c74911925b915195b8ddab2ec133bc64a50b1699.jpeg) A few stations with 33% swing. So, it works $$ in that case. Just lower mileage and more fill ups. Site has old data though. Early June prices and recent prices. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/17 "2022-06-18T16:40:46Z")
Price doesn’t matter, it won’t work for the OP’s car. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/18 "2022-06-18T17:50:20Z")
E85 is cheaper. If your car can use it. ---
**Author:** ![ken2116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f19dbf/32.png) [@ken2116](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ken2116)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/19 "2022-06-20T02:18:18Z")
E85 means 85% ethanol. Okay only if your manual/fuel cap specifically allow it (as for a flex fuel car). Ethanol is hard on rubber gaskets and hoses unless they’re specially made to tolerate it and is more prone to corroding metals (think fuel system), so unless your car was designed for E85 you might be asking for trouble down the road. It also might cause operational problems, throw codes, possibly do damage (but I don’t know). ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679/20 "2022-06-20T02:21:49Z")
Several people have said this vehicle is not rated for E85 . Also the person who asked seems to have left the building. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e85-in-pre-18-camry/184679.md?page=2)