# E15 Gas, ok by you? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 29, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341 "2023-04-29T04:21:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/1 "2023-04-29T04:21:06Z")
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said the emergency waiver allows summer sales of E15, which renewable fuel groups say can cost 27 cents less a gallon than gasoline with 10% ethanol, called E10.The [EPA says](https://www.epa.gov/fuels-registration-reporting-and-compliance-help/e15-fuel-registration) E15 can be used in flexible-fuel vehicles, as well as 2001 and newer cars, light-duty [trucks](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/pickup-trucks/), and medium-duty [SUVs](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/suvs/). Don’t use E15 in motorcycles or other small engines, heavy-duty trucks, or nonroad vehicles such as boats and snowmobiles. Wonder if there will be E10 stations, like top tier stations. Drove 30 miles to get nonoxygenated gas and it must have been bad, snow blowers did not like it. Hard to start. I will stick to E10 if given a choice. ---
**Author:** ![wolyrobb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/wolyrobb/32/45497_2.png) [@wolyrobb](https://community.cartalk.com/u/wolyrobb)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 7:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/2 "2023-04-29T07:48:07Z")
Shouldn’t be an issue for our fleet but we have a local station selling nonoxygenated gas that’s 12mi round trip for the ATV and other equipment that isn’t rated for E15, not much longer of a trip than to go to the usual gas station. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/3 "2023-04-29T11:49:34Z")
We have local stations selling E20 already. I have not seen anybody pump it. Our Audi is flex fuel so no issues. I have tested a blend of about E30 in the Mustang with no issues. I doubt the 04 truck would care but it will make mpgs worse than they already are. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/4 "2023-04-30T01:21:57Z")
We have one gas station here that sells something like E10. My Corolla didn’t like it, had some fuel system issues after a half-tank. I’m not sure if the half-tank of E10 was related to the issues though. ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/5 "2023-04-30T03:09:09Z")
E15 better be less than 95% the cost of E10 or it isn’t worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/6 "2023-04-30T03:43:16Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > We have one gas station here that sells something like E10. E10 has been the standard gasoline blend in California for the last 25 years. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 5:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/7 "2023-04-30T05:59:25Z")
E10 is ok although I don’t prefer it. You have to be careful in Iowa and other farm states that are pushing e15. Not good in all cars. Don’t know what the cutoff is. I got one tank late at night and seemed ok but not what I prefer. I have non-oxy available and use on,y in small engines. It’s the premium for $4 a gallon now but if e15 is all that’s available in the future, I’ll go with the premium mostly. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/8 "2023-04-30T12:23:20Z")
E88 used to be available at only one convenience store chain, but it looks like it is sold at many gas stations near me now. Still, I’m not interested in putting it in our Odyssey. I doubt that it costs less to use given the decrease in gas mileage despite the lower per gallon cost. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/9 "2023-04-30T14:28:24Z")
E88? U must be confused. Gas is 87 octane, maybe 89, and usually 91. The 87 stuff has sticker that says it may contain up to 10% ethanol. So, is it really e10? I see e85 for sale. With 85% ethanol. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/10 "2023-04-30T14:47:50Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > E88 used to be available at only one convenience store chain I think you are confusing E20 with an octane rating of 88 as E88. E85 is the fuel with the highest amount of ethanol. 85% is the maximum but it tends to be a out 75 to 80% at the pump ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/11 "2023-04-30T14:53:19Z")
All these numbers are confusing to consumers. They should adopt a similar campaign as the beer companies. Mobil Zero, Mobil Lite, Mobil Heavy, Mobil Ultra… 😆 ---
**Author:** ![lion9car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lion9car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lion9car)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/12 "2023-04-30T15:12:09Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > So, is it really e10? Unleaded 88 is E15. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/13 "2023-04-30T15:28:54Z")
What percent is 87 octane? 87 is 10%e and 88 is 15%e? ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/14 "2023-04-30T18:43:42Z")
I looked up e88 and the source said that is is called that because 84 octane unleaded gasoline is mixed with 15% ethanol to produce 88 octane. The terminology is a little confusing because it doesn’t refer to ethanol content. Still, several gas stations around me use that terminology. > **[Shell E15 Regular 88](https://www.shell.us/motorist/shell-fuels/shell-e15-regular-88.html)** > > Shell E15 Regular 88 is a gasoline blend containing 15% ethanol and 85% gasoline that has 5% more ethanol than the most commonly available fuel E10 which contains 10% ethanol. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/15 "2023-04-30T19:04:28Z")
Boy is it ever getting confusing. E15 is 85% gas. E10 is 90%gas, but e85 or 88 is 85% ethanol. When I’m on a trip I have to study the pumps pretty good to figure out what it actually is. We have enough trouble with diesel in gas. This is just ridiculous for the general public. My wife was at a station 150 miles away where we usually stopped to fill up. She called thinking she might have put the wrong stuff in. She picked the non-oxy instead of the mixed. I said the car will love it. Now cmon man, do we really expect someone that can’t check the oil to put the right gas in? ---
**Author:** ![lion9car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lion9car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lion9car)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/16 "2023-04-30T20:13:04Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Boy is it ever getting confusing. E15 is 85% gas. E10 is 90%gas, but e85 or 88 is 85% ethanol. Ethanol percentage and octane are two different numbers. Both are clearly labeled in my experience. I’m afraid I don’t see why that’s particularly confusing. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/17 "2023-04-30T20:18:16Z")
> [@bing](#): > > Boy is it ever getting confusing. E15 is 85% gas. E10 is 90%gas, but e85 or 88 is 85% ethanol. What’s so hard ? E10 = 10% ethanol E15 = 15% ethanol E85 = 85% ethanol ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/18 "2023-04-30T20:18:24Z")
The confusing thing is if any companies call E15 “e88”. Stupid thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![lion9car](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lion9car](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lion9car)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/19 "2023-04-30T20:20:13Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > I looked up e88 and the source said that is is called that because 84 octane unleaded gasoline is mixed with 15% ethanol to produce 88 octane. The terminology is a little confusing because it doesn’t refer to ethanol content. Can you point me to anyone calling it E88 except you? I don’t think any companies do that. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341/20 "2023-04-30T20:38:49Z")
> [@texases](#): > > The confusing thing is if any companies call E15 “e88”. Stupid thing to do. I can’t find anyone calling it E88, Lots of places calling it “Unleaded 88” which is E85 with an octane rating of 88 [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/e15-gas-ok-by-you/190341.md?page=2)