# Drained oil. Wrong filter inside box. Wait until Walmart openSunday? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 25, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445 "2021-12-25T13:38:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scrapyard-John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Scrapyard-John](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Scrapyard-John)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/21 "2021-12-27T00:40:19Z")
Same here. I suppose I wouldn’t be able to tell if a canister style collapsed. But I’ve never seen one collapse on the wife’s Toyota with the cartridge style. ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/22 "2021-12-27T06:36:24Z")
> [@Nevada\_545](#): > > > [@Robert-Gift](#): > > > > _That pictured filter-media-only insert goes over a perforated tube, does it not?_ > > _So howould it collapse?_ > > There is a spring inside the cap that keeps tension on the filter insert. > > > [@Robert-Gift](#): > > > > _The Fram 9972 filters have a plastic **cap** **entirely covering** each end._ > > See arrow below for the plastic end cap. I don’t remember what brand filter that was, the picture was taken 3 years ago. The one on the right is Toyota/Denso Thank you. Before I wondered if the construction changed and it **is** till the correct filter. The “wrong” filter appears as your filter on the right. The 9972 plasticovers both ends, like the left filter. The wrong filter does not have any numbers which matchumbers on the box. Naturally, as I was getting ready to go to Walmart and obtain the correct filter, an emergentransport to a hospital. Then two mor **emergent** rips to the same hospital. An additional 221 miles on the used oil filter. Oil stillooks good. Shall continue and just do an earlier oil and filter change. Hopefullyvife’s filter, from 30k to 40k, did not have much to capture. ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 6:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/23 "2021-12-28T06:18:50Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > But I typically perform engine oil changes every 5K so I’m not sure what would happen if I used them for extended interval oil changes On the box: **Protection up to 10,000 mi.** ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/24 "2021-12-28T07:52:33Z")
And about that collapsed filter insert; The same filter housing fits several engine options and 1 of 3 cores is used to suit the application. If a long insert is installed over a shorter core the insert will be collapsed to look like the one in the photo… I have bought after market filter housings with the 3 cores and instructions for use > **[Dorman Oil Filter Cover 917-016](https://www.autozone.com/filters-and-pcv/oil-filter-cover/p/dorman-oil-filter-cover-917-016/974936_0_0)** ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/25 "2021-12-28T12:56:39Z")
> [@Rod-Knox](#): > > _And about that collapsed filter insert; The same filter housing fits several engine options and 1 of 3 cores is used to suit the application. If a long insert is installed over a shorter core the insert will be collapsed to look like the one in the photo…_ > > _I have bought after market filter housings with the 3 cores and instructions for use_ Is there any concern about back-pressure or the pressu **required** to force the oil through the filter media? If not, I would use the largest filter possible. (In our furnace I.nstalled two L-brackets to hold a much larger filter at an angle inside the cold ai **return** plenum. Now twice the filter **area** llowing more airflow than the original.) ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/26 "2021-12-28T20:50:02Z")
The filter must match the application. The housing fits various blocks with varying depths and the correct center must be installed along with the correct filter. When serviced properly there is only very minor pressure against the filter material and it is unlikely that the filter would ever accumulate enough trash to significantly increase the pressure. ---
**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/27 "2021-12-28T20:57:08Z")
> [@Robert-Gift](#): > > Is there any concern about back-pressure or the pressu **required** to force the oil through the filter media? oil filters have a by-pass valve if the filter gets so clogged that the oil wont pass through it ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/28 "2021-12-29T22:08:20Z")
Well two fold comments. I was buying AC filters at Walmart and the guy told me to check inside the box because people liked to cheat and put the more expensive filters in the cheaper boxes. If you go through the self-checkout, the computer has no idea. So when I buy filters I always check inside the box for the proper filter and the condition of it such as bad gasket. Secondly in this day and age of shortages, I have increased my supply on hand slightly, although I always carried some extra. I just changed oil on the Acura and I have six Honda filters on the shelf. Plus ten quarts of Mobil 1. That’s good for 30,000 miles. For the Pontiac, I have four AC filters on the shelf and 20 quarts of oil. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/29 "2021-12-30T13:53:39Z")
Yesterday, I changed oil. When I got to doing the filter, the new filter was different diameter than the old one. I double checked and i had the right filter according to the websites. And then I remembered! The last time I was in a bit of a hurry, so I had one of those quick lube places do the oil and filter - and they apparently didn’t use the correct filter. I assume they used one that was compatible, except for the size - and cheaper! Lesson learned! ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/30 "2021-12-30T15:21:44Z")
> [@CapriRacer](#): > > Yesterday, I changed oil. When I got to doing the filter, the new filter was different diameter than the old one. I double checked and i had the right filter according to the websites. Could have been a manufacturer change. My 84 GMC S-15 went through 3 different filter design changes for the 6 years I owned it. GM AC/Delco changed the design and the aftermarket companies followed to meet the new spec. ---
**Author:** ![mrbreezeet1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@mrbreezeet1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mrbreezeet1)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/31 "2021-12-30T18:38:16Z")
My personal opinion you would be fine with the oil you already put in just change the filter. ---
**Author:** ![mrbreezeet1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@mrbreezeet1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mrbreezeet1)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/32 "2021-12-30T18:41:09Z")
wix makes filters for Napa too! ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/33 "2021-12-30T18:57:06Z")
> [@mrbreezeet1](#): > > wix makes filters for Napa too! Their Gold line is made by Wix. I think their Silver line is made by Purolator though. ---
**Author:** ![bloody\_knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@bloody\_knuckles](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bloody_knuckles)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/34 "2021-12-31T12:00:23Z")
Once again, my vote is for OEM filters from the dealer. You will get the right filter for your car, only the parts guy has access to the filter boxes so no idiot customers can intentionally or accidentally switch filters, and you will always get the correct filtration and flow rate. You CANNOT tell how good a filter does its job by simply looking at it. A cheaply made filter may perform its filtering job in a far superior manner and a well made filter may perform poorly or have other specs (flow rate, bypass valve pressure) that are not appropriate for your car. If you can’t get to the dealer in person there are MANY dealers online that will sell you the correct filter (and drain plug crush washers) at a good price, especially if you buy more than one or two at a time. I buy plenty of high quality aftermarket parts that work great, but I stopped buying aftermarket filters years ago and I get the right filter every time for the same price as a cheap aftermarket filter (or less). ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/35 "2021-12-31T15:02:40Z")
> [@bloody\_knuckles](#): > > I buy plenty of high quality aftermarket parts that work great, but I stopped buying aftermarket filters years ago and I get the right filter every time for the same price as a cheap aftermarket filter (or less). You live in a special part of the country or you work for a dealer. Dealer oil prices (no matter the manufacturer) are easily 2-3 times the cost of good quality non dealer oil filter around here. Every once in a while I see Toyota dealers having sales on filters…still more expensive then I can buy locally. Even if you buy the OEM manufacturer filter. Most asian vehicle filters are made by Denso. And then there’s on-line. Some on-line prices are even cheaper. And I too get the right filter every time. I open the box before I leave the store to check. Not a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![bloody\_knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@bloody\_knuckles](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bloody_knuckles)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/36 "2021-12-31T15:36:22Z")
Just to be argumentative, I went online and found a Toyota dealer who would ship 10 OEM filters over a thousand miles to me for less than $6 per filter, all in. Then I went online to the local auto parts store website and the cheapest Fram filter I could find for the same Toyota vehicle was $10.99 plus tax (a generous 7.5% where I live). This comes out to $11.18 per filter, or almost double the OEM. If you are in NH (as your name would indicate), it would appear that the total cost would be the same. I ran the same comparison on my OEM Mazda filters (which my dealer gives me for free) and found the OEM filters for around $7 each, all in, shipped to my door. A cheap Carquest filter is supposedly compatible for $6.45 each locally and premium filters run $12 to $17 each. Maybe you and I are looking at different things. Nothing I found online supports buying aftermarket over OEM filters except for stubbornness. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/37 "2021-12-31T15:41:08Z")
Filters are one thing I won’t buy on-line. Just as easy to buy locally. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/38 "2021-12-31T17:02:21Z")
I knew you would get negative replies on buying OEM. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/39 "2021-12-31T17:31:24Z")
> [@Purebred](#): > > I knew you would get negative replies on buying OEM. Nothing negative about buying OEM. Just that you can get as good or better for less money. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445/40 "2021-12-31T18:47:28Z")
> [@bloody\_knuckles](#): > > Once again, my vote is for OEM filters from the dealer. I have bought Honda filters from the dealer and the cost was about $10 each. Then I have ordered Honda filters from a dealer on line for about $5 and buy six at a time with the 50 cent crush washers. I like having a supply on hand and works for me. I don’t begrudge the local dealer the extra carrying cost. Now for my AC filters, I just get them at WalMart for about $5 each or so. I don’t know if that qualifies as local or not but I see no reason to buy them at the GM dealer and never have. I mentioned that I saw the same filter at AZ for over $10. Don’t know why but I’m not a big AZ fan. If I ordered them from Rock, they would be about $3 plus shipping. I guess it just works for me. Way back KMart always had the AC products as well as the local Champion Auto. Now you sometimes need to hunt for them. There was some marketing issue I guess some years ago with AC and don’t remember. Not such a big deal anymore from when I used to change oil every month. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/drained-oil-wrong-filter-inside-box-wait-until-walmart-opensunday/181445.md?page=3)