# Dodge Charger Daytona

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**Created:** [December 12, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352 "2024-12-12T14:54:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/1 "2024-12-12T14:54:49Z")

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Reviews of the Dodge Charger Daytona EV are coming out now and they are positive. I’ve posted two below. A big drawback is the price, but you’d pay a similar price for the Hellcat versions. What do you think?

> **[2024 Dodge Charger Daytona EV First Drive Review: Don't Be Mad, But...](https://www.thedrive.com/car-reviews/2024-dodge-charger-daytona-first-drive-review)**
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> Taken at face value, Dodge's powerful new electric muscle car is quite an exciting drive.

[https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a63147155/2024-dodge-charger-daytona-ev-drive/](https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a63147155/2024-dodge-charger-daytona-ev-drive/)

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/2 "2024-12-12T15:01:21Z")

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The 4 door version variant is called something.  
For a second I thought story said its name was valiant.  
A Plymouth valiant?

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/3 "2024-12-12T15:09:50Z")

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A few comments… I don’t like screens installed like an afterthought. Mount them IN the dash, please. Just my preference.

Fake engine noise and vibration?? Sensaround for your car? No, just admit it is an EV and be proud of it.

Nearly 5700 lbs??? It weighs as much as a large SUV. It will, KILL tires. I sure hope I never see one at a track day. The older ICE cars are scary enough… very heavy cars with big HP and not nearly enough tire or brake!

I hope Chrysler has BIG empty marshaling lots because they will be filled with these cars waiting for customers.

Edit: One more comment… an EV from the company that gave the world the TIPM!

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/4 "2024-12-12T15:35:51Z")

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My problem with high-power EVs - they are worse for the environment than the gas-guzzlers they’re replacing for years to come. There’s a payoff period for EVs regarding greenhouse gases (CO2), because of what’s needed to make those batteries. These super-power EVs need LOTS of batteries, while the cars they’re replacing, while they use a lot of gas, typically aren’t driven a lot. It’ll take a LONG time to dig out of that CO2 emissions hole. The same goes for those HUMMER/GMC EVs doing the sideways crawl on all those commercials. They have HUGE batteries.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/5 "2024-12-12T15:37:55Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> Fake engine noise and vibration??

I don’t like that either. I prefer quit power like a Bentley.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/6 "2024-12-12T15:45:08Z")

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I was at a concours and cruise in recently at the Lake Mirror car show. A Duesenberg started up and drove past me. It was earily silent even with its 7 liter engine. Same could be said for a similar era Rolls Royce Silver Ghost.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/7 "2024-12-12T16:23:30Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> Same could be said for a similar era Rolls Royce Silver Ghost.

Yup!  
There were signs placed around the old RR factory stating…  
_Watch out for silent cars_… or something to that effect.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/8 "2024-12-12T16:53:30Z")

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A little research on the Rolls Royce built in the teen and 20s revealed the tolerance on a crankshaft main and rod journals. The TOTAL tolerance was 0.0005 inch… 1/2 a thousandth of an inch! This was done on lathes with a manual operator. To get within that 0.0005 window, the operator would have to insure the crank had time to cool before the final polish operation so the expansion would not throw off the final value.

That’s why the solid mounted Rolls 6 cylinder engine was so smooth and quiet!

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/9 "2024-12-12T17:15:27Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> That’s why the solid mounted Rolls 6 cylinder engine was so smooth and quiet!

Additionally, they adhered to Henry Royce’s philosophy of “knitting” heavy parts to the chassis. Where other mfrs might use 4 or 6 large bolts, he advocated the use of as many as 16 smaller bolts.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/10 "2024-12-12T17:48:19Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> the solid mounted Rolls 6 cylinder engine was so smooth and quiet!

I’m guessing that even more recent RRs have been equally smooth and quiet, but–strangely–the Royal Family actually favored Daimlers, up until when Elizabeth purchased her own RR in 1950.

This 1935 Daimler was used by Queen Mary, up until her death in 1953:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/8/4/847327440914d32b8fd15075014ebb4bd1017ed6.jpeg)

This is the RR Phantom IV that Elizabeth and Philip bought in 1950:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/3/6/36033932c2427186c0fa15631b3799be6add7761.jpeg)

Since 2000 or so, the official “state” car has been this Bentley limo:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/7/1/7131ca8a12200dc146b4f9789f8b9d50f6599977.jpeg)

But, it seems that Charles and Camilla are most often seen in one of two RR Phantom VI limos from the '80s. I think these may qualify as the least aerodynamic cars ever made.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/4/5/454dcccce770e1a9feeedff81a685a91e5fde6da.jpeg)

It’s said that they tend to retire their cars when they reach 130k miles or so, and I guess that the Phantom VIs haven’t yet reached that mileage.

When Charles is able to drive himself, he favors his Aston Martins. This is his 1969 DB6 Volante:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/3/6/363ea1ad4a365ab9b21af907790d497d5b4d39ea.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/11 "2024-12-12T20:56:26Z")

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It seems like the royal family would drive UK manufactured vehicles like Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, and Land Rover.

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> [@jtsanders](#):
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> It seems like the royal family would drive UK manufactured vehicles like Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, and Land Rover.

They always have.  
The name of the British Daimler marque was purchased from the German Daimler company, and Daimler’s vehicles have always been made in The UK. However, I’m sure that the modern-day foreign ownership of RR, Bentley, Mini, Vauxhall, MG, and Jaguar/Rover irks most Brits.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/13 "2024-12-13T02:42:01Z")

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And Daimler went out of business in 2010.

I think the royals rode in Daimlers to be a bit less autocratic than a Rolls.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/14 "2024-12-13T12:57:02Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> Daimler went out of business in 2010.

But, they did make a significant contribution to the car industry with their hemi-head V8s. The larger version of this engine powered cars such as this DR450:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/5/3/53e8cebbd9b88eed1769419ce23cd85fd048c9ce.jpeg)

> [@Mustangman](#):
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> I think the royals rode in Daimlers to be a bit less autocratic than a Rolls.

That might have been the reason why the Queen Mother loved her Daimlers, even after her daughter switched to Rolls. This 1992 model was her final Daimler:

> **[Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust](https://www.jaguarheritage.com/vehicle-collection/1992-daimler-ds420-limousine/)**
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> Where the Legend Comes to Life

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/15 "2024-12-14T01:20:20Z")

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Apples and Oranges. The anti-EV types like to compare the amount of CO2 emitted in making an EV to the amount of CO2 emitted by driving an ICE vehicle. They forget that a lot of CO2 is emitted during the manufacture of the ICE vehicle, almost as much as manufacturing an EV. The EV payback is much shorter.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/16 "2024-12-14T01:22:08Z")

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The evaluations I’ve read include all emissions, apples to apples.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dodge-charger-daytona/198352/17 "2024-12-14T01:24:40Z")

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I have not seen those very often and when I do, the payback is a LOT sooner than the EV haters claim.
