# Do you remember the old Land Rover jeep?

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**Created:** [March 10, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512 "2024-03-10T20:06:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Clueless33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Clueless33](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Clueless33)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/1 "2024-03-10T20:06:31Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/4/64ab22ed1287934ebc1a96fb1cde16e494cfc38f.jpeg)

This image was obtained on google for demonstration purposes.

My Dad ( at the time ) owned a Land Rover Jeep which lacked a power steering, power windows, power brake, power clutch, and I believe the top speed for it was 50mph.

He used the Jeep to deliver cakes ( he had a bakery ) and also to haul woods. He would also drive the thing across his 6 1/2 acres of land.

I failed at learning to drive it because the steering wheel as well as the clutch and brake were too stiff.

I thought I’d share this story with CarTalk. The jeep was and remains a vital part of my childhood. Despite it being sold and a week later was totaled by the second owner, it’s a vehicle I consider my best friend.

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**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/2 "2024-03-10T20:12:35Z")

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Land Rovers aren’t Jeeps and Jeeps aren’t Land Rovers. They are separate brands.

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**Author:** ![Clueless33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Clueless33](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Clueless33)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/3 "2024-03-10T20:14:33Z")

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Oh really. That’s interesting. Back on the island we called them Land Rover jeeps. Thanks for pointing this out. I’ll pass on the info to my people 👍

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/4 "2024-03-10T20:15:04Z")

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Land Rover Defender…

But lots of people call ALL off-road vehicles “Jeeps” much to Jeep’s dismay.

Like Kleenex instead of tissue…

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/5 "2024-03-10T20:19:21Z")

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Those older Land Rovers are pretty popular as classic-restoration vehicles. They appear on the UK’s tv shows frequently, Rosemary & Thyme, Midsomer Murders, etc. Like you say they have some clear downsides, lacking most mod-cons; but a classic restorers would focus on the time it takes to replace the head gasket compared to a newer Jeep.

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/6 "2024-03-10T20:43:13Z")

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> [@Clueless33](#):
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> 6/2 acre of land.

Is that the same as 3 acres ?

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/7 "2024-03-10T21:02:12Z")

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Old Defenders are pretty much un-kill-able. The aluminum bodies resist rust. The diesel engine is downright agricultural but will last forever. They were built for an astounding 67 years.

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**Author:** ![Clueless33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Clueless33](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Clueless33)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/8 "2024-03-10T21:04:57Z")

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> [@VOLVO-V70](#):
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> Is that the same as 3 acres ?

I missed the 1.

6 1/2.

Six and a half.

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**Author:** ![Clueless33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Clueless33](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Clueless33)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/9 "2024-03-10T21:10:04Z")

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That is correct. And my Dad’s father passed it down to him. That thing couldn’t rust. But the engine tend to overheat on long trips.

I think the only part of the vehicle I saw a little rust on was the front bumper.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/10 "2024-03-10T21:12:11Z")

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> [@Clueless33](#):
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> I saw a little rust on was the front bumper.

Well, that was made from steel! A little paint will fix it right up!

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**Author:** ![Clueless33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Clueless33](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Clueless33)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/11 "2024-03-10T21:17:55Z")

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I asked my dad one day what was 4 wheel drive? Because he kept saying he put the truck in 4 wheel to climb a hill.

He called me over to the vehicle to show me some tiny cuts in the tires ( they were designed that way for traction ) and said “ When I put the truck in 4 wheel drive, tiny spikes come out of those holes ( cuts ) and to help the truck climb anything “

I believed him for years.

My dad was a true ass.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/12 "2024-03-10T21:29:24Z")

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> [@Clueless33](#):
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> said “ When I put the truck in 4 wheel drive, tiny spikes come out of those holes ( cuts ) and to help the truck climb anything “

lol … maybe your dad’s true profession should have been advertising ! … lol … funny story.

Reminds me of the time I asked my dad what the raised “9” meant on the gas-station price signs. why does it say 33 9, rather than just 33? His annoyed reply: “It doesnt’ mean anything” … lol …

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/13 "2024-03-10T21:50:26Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> Reminds me of the time I asked my dad what the raised “9” meant on the gas-station price signs. why does it say 33 9, rather than just 33? His annoyed reply: “It doesnt’ mean anything”

I can relate to this. lol.

When I first moved to the United States, I noticed everything with a price tag had 99c next to it.

If an item was listed for $3,99, I would just say $4.

The cashier or whoever was/were with me would argue that it wasn’t $4 but rather $3,99.

After two decades living here, I refuse to acknowledge the 99c. lol.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/14 "2024-03-10T23:09:41Z")

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$3.99 sounds better than the $4.00 price, your brain only really pays attention to the 1st number… Just like $999.99 sounds better than a Thousand $…

But I am with you (as I am sure others are also), I always just round up… Being in the retail world, I never told a customer the change, I always rounded up the price because most ONLY heard the $ amount and not the cents so when they showed up to get the vehicle the price was higher…

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/15 "2024-03-11T00:41:40Z")

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Local Land Rover restorer keeps a couple on display visible from the highway in front of the end of one of the shops that is a giant unuon jack. Several around town that get used regularly. Mostly 88inch wheelbase

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/16 "2024-03-11T03:29:25Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> I asked my dad what the raised “9” meant on the gas-station price signs. why does it say 33 9, rather than just 33?

I remember when the decimal digit wasn’t always 9.

Rolls-Royce made a ‘jeep’ for the Royal Army in WW2. It had a flat bottom, no differential bump. Saw one parked next to a gas station in the Southern California desert.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/17 "2024-03-11T04:49:00Z")

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> [@RandomTroll](#):
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> I remember when the decimal digit wasn’t always 9.

I remember seeing .4, .6, I think it was 70’s. Things were different way back then.

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Our local specialist, What they can’t get from Land Rover they make

 ![brit](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/3/1347abe8264e86840ed23db7530373f29c37e275.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/19 "2024-03-11T12:58:49Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> But lots of people call ALL off-road vehicles “Jeeps” much to Jeep’s dismay.

… and to the dismay of the owners of the other 4wd vehicles.  
Back in 1996, when SUVs weren’t yet ubiquitous, a friend bought a Ford Explorer. Every time that his co-workers saw it, they referred to it as a Jeep. He even took pains to point-out the Ford blue oval and the Explorer tag to one of them, but she was adamant that he had actually bought a Jeep.

Because of Jamaica’s links to The UK, the OP just might remember Land Rover’s early competitor, the Austin Champ.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/5/a5e7484e6083363e85403880ed6be26b802cde1a.jpeg)

They were supposedly superior to LR Defenders, but their very high price led The Royal Army to buy very few of them, and eventually they were all auctioned-off to civilians.

> **[Austin Champ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Champ)**
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> The Austin Champ was a military and civilian jeep-like vehicle made by the Austin Motor Company in the 1950s. The army version was officially known as "Truck, 1/4 ton, CT, 4×4, Cargo & FFW, Austin Mk.1" however the civilian name "Champ" was universally, if unofficially, applied to it.
> The majority of Champs produced went to the British Army.
> A British Army specification for a light truck was issued in the late 1940s, inspired by the Willys MB "Jeep" but able to perform in all theatres of oper...

Later, there was the Austin Gipsy, which looked suspiciously similar to the LR Defender, but was rumored to be a really bad vehicle.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/0/d/0de473e411fa199077ec4947f2983ef01c4f359f.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-you-remember-the-old-land-rover-jeep/194512/20 "2024-03-11T13:26:01Z")

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The Champ looks very awkward-British, doesn’t it? The Gipsy looks purposeful like the Defender. Maybe styling matters with utilitarian vehicles, too.

As for the Champ being too expensive… When Bantam designed the “Jeep” for the US military it won the competition but Bantam could not produce the volumes. Willys and Ford got the nod because they had capacity. Ford cost-reduced the design almost immediately and shared the changes with Willys. One of those changes was the 9 slat grille that became the trademark of Jeep.

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