# Do not use the Lug Nuts from your Allow Wheels on Your Snow Tire Steel Wheels **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 16, 2026, 12:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847 "2026-01-16T00:51:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/22 "2026-01-24T16:31:05Z")
Like this? ![IMG_3270](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/b/ab861bd7a299582792232ae093119f9b9ab14b4f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/23 "2026-01-24T18:53:57Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > Should I worry about sports cars with staggered tires? Wide tires are more susceptible to hydroplaning, we should all be nervous about other vehicles sliding all over the road. Maybe one of the busybodies will lobby against wide tires on the rear of sports cars. ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/24 "2026-01-25T16:27:03Z")
Yeh! Lets go back to aspect ratios \>80 ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/25 "2026-01-25T16:39:06Z")
Let’s be reasonable here. 60-70-series is the sweet spot. 50 is tolerable. anything below 50-series is for looks and not worth a second of my time pondering. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/26 "2026-01-25T23:18:29Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > Let’s be reasonable here. > > 60-70-series is the sweet spot. It was in our lifetimes that new cars were equipped with 80 series tires. Nowadays, 55-60 series is the norm. Is that just middle-aged spread? 😀 ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/27 "2026-01-26T00:05:03Z")
I seem to remember my aunt had a 1992 base model Corolla with 155R13 tires ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 12:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/28 "2026-01-26T00:42:22Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > 1992 base model Corolla with 155R13 tires What was the aspect ratio? ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 1:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/29 "2026-01-26T01:02:03Z")
While aspect ratios have changed over the years, tire diameter has increased. 155/80R13 has a diameter of 22.8". 22.8" - 13" = 9.8", divided by 2, a sidewall height of 4.9". 2025 Corolla P205/55R16 has a diameter of 24.9". 24.9" - 16" = 8.9", a sidewall height of 4.45". Going from an aspect ratio of 80 down to 55, tire sidewalls have been reduced by less than half an inch. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 1:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/30 "2026-01-26T01:09:08Z")
Front wheel drive SUVs today have larger tires than pick-up trucks had in the 1970’s and 80’s. P235/55R20 has a diameter of 30.2", more sidewall than that 80 series tire had in 1992. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 1:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/31 "2026-01-26T01:53:21Z")
> [@Nevada\_545](#): > > 155/80R13 has a diameter of 22.8". That sounds like the stock size for an early '60s Corvair. There’s a post in a car forum ten years ago about someone trying to buy that size for their Corvair, and being told by the tire seller that they sell that size “only for trailers”. > [@Nevada\_545](#): > > Going from an aspect ratio of 80 down to 55, tire sidewalls have been reduced by less than half an inch. > [@Nevada\_545](#): > > P235/55R20 has a diameter of 30.2", more sidewall than that 80 series tire had in 1992. Yeah but look how wide 235 is. There’s no way to convince me of any benefits of those monstah size tires, beyond looks. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 2:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/32 "2026-01-26T02:08:03Z")
I seem to recall they were labeled 155R13, but the aspect ratio may have been 80 or 85 ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 2:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/33 "2026-01-26T02:25:04Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > There’s no way to convince me of any benefits of those monstah size tires, beyond looks. Explain that to a policeman. Ford Explorer uses P255 and wider tires. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/9/c/9c1f7fd9fbee99ab7ef66baf5956740f93ece98c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 2:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/34 "2026-01-26T02:43:24Z")
Tires that wide are good for driving sideways, not in a straight path. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/35 "2026-01-26T04:24:30Z")
> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#): > > That sounds like the stock size for an early '60s Corvair. A 1983 Chevy Celebrity, a typical family sedan of the time, rode on 185/80R13 tires. Handling on those cars was a dream! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 6:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847/36 "2026-01-26T06:11:54Z")
ase: 300-30R20s and the like are too sensitive at the helm for me. 😉 [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-not-use-the-lug-nuts-from-your-allow-wheels-on-your-snow-tire-steel-wheels/204847.md?page=1)