# Do any modern cars have 2-side gas fill-up capability?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 26, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163 "2024-11-26T23:12:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/102 "2024-12-06T01:43:28Z")

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My 59 Catalina the fuel door was camouflaged rather than concealed.  
The fuel door is where the letters AC are. From the factory the vertical creases were painted flat black, more or less making the fuel door less noticible.

 ![IMG_2791](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/1/f1a4cfc8f19c96376006fa371fd3c9c574f7f3eb.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/103 "2024-12-06T02:04:02Z")

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Thanks I couldn’t remember where the dang fuel door was on my 59 Pontiac. I think my 68 dart was on the side but who knows?

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/104 "2024-12-06T02:22:14Z")

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> [@weekend-warrior](#):
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> I tried DDG. I went to the site and put in car talk and it did not help. unless I have to download it and then use it.

Correct. You need to install the DDG browser and use it.  
Or you could add the uBlock Origin extension to your existing browser. That works really well.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/105 "2024-12-06T13:49:19Z")

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I haven’t changed my mind. She mishandled a dangerous fluid. When I worked at a steel mill we had daily safety meetings to head off dangerous situations including scalding. The basic idea is that everyone should consider how dangerous something could be in advance at take steps to avoid the danger.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/106 "2024-12-06T13:53:22Z")

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> [@jtsanders](#):
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> we had daily safety meetings to head off dangerous situations including scalding

McDonald’s (and other places that serve their coffee at scalding temperatures) should require customers to sit through a safety briefing before allowing them to buy coffee!  
😉

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/107 "2024-12-06T14:02:32Z")

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People should think for themselves and avoid dangerous situations unless they really want to experience them. Car racing is an example.

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/108 "2024-12-06T14:31:02Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/4/7/478393a4ef9191397c509208abb5a4ba42bdb6d3.jpeg)  
They are using the charging stations at McDonald’s.  
Car on left is backed in.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/109 "2024-12-07T13:41:12Z")

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What I had heard, from a friend who was close to the proceedings, was that the Corporation found out they could extract more cups of coffee from each batch of grounds if the brewing temperature was significantly increased. The jury was sympathetic to the corporate greed leading to serving at dangerous temps. This changed my outlook on the case as well. My initial view was, what imbecile doesn’t know coffee is hot? Still don’t excuse the stupidity of how the coffee was handled by the customer but knowingly passing it to a consumer under the disingenuous excuse _they want it extra hot for travel_ trumps that stupidity…

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/110 "2024-12-07T14:03:10Z")

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> [@TwinTurbo](#):
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> What I had heard, from a friend who was close to the proceedings, was that the Corporation found out they could extract more cups of coffee from each batch of grounds if the brewing temperature was significantly increased.

Bingo!  
I no longer have online access to all of the legal documents of that case via _Lexis/Nexis_, but this was one of the prime issues.

In order to be able to use a smaller amount of coffee grounds, McDonald’s directed franchise owners to increase the temperature of the water to ~30 degrees higher than the norm. Ergo–the desire for a higher profit margin was considered to be more important than the health and safety of their customers.

About 700 customers had already been scalded by McD’s coffee, prior to this case, so it wasn’t as if the corporation was unaware of the inherent danger of serving excessively-hot coffee, especially in situations where it is served at the drive-up window, to people in cars.

> [@TwinTurbo](#):
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> Still don’t excuse the stupidity of how the coffee was handled by the customer

That’s why the jury assigned 20% of the blame to the litigant, and 80% to McDonald’s.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/111 "2024-12-07T14:59:25Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> , McDonald’s directed franchise owners to increase the temperature of the water to ~30 degrees higher than the norm.

I don’t see how that’s possible. Typical brewing temperature is 200F.

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/112 "2024-12-07T15:39:36Z")

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You do have to download and use it. You remind me of the guy who went to his doctor complaining that his girlfriend was pregnant even though he was using birth control. Doc asks him how he used it. Guy says " I followed the instructions. I don’t have an organ, so I put it on the piano!

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/113 "2024-12-07T15:42:16Z")

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> [@old\_mopar\_guy](#):
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> I don’t have an organ, so I put it on the piano!

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/114 "2024-12-07T16:53:01Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> I don’t see how that’s possible. Typical brewing temperature is 200F.

The key point is that coffee is supposed to be served to customers at 120-140 degrees. It’s common to brew/drip at 195 degrees (or perhaps even a bit higher), but serving it to customers at that temperature is… not safe.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/115 "2024-12-07T18:56:02Z")

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Man and it’s the same color as mine, canyon copper.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/116 "2024-12-08T18:05:02Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> I don’t see how that’s possible. Typical brewing temperature is 200F.

There are two aspects; the brewing temperature and what they call the holding temperature. Brewing extra hot and then also holding extra hot is where the safety problem lies…

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/117 "2024-12-08T18:43:53Z")

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> [@TwinTurbo](#):
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> There are two aspects; the brewing temperature and what they call the holding temperature.

So now my question - why have a high holding temperature? That doesn’t increase yield, and would seem to make the coffee go stale/bad more quickly.

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