# Do any modern cars have 2-side gas fill-up capability?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 26, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163 "2024-11-26T23:12:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/41 "2024-12-03T06:51:27Z")

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Those of you romancing over the rear filler neck might not recall one of the reasons for its elimination:

The ‘Pinto Effect’

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/42 "2024-12-03T11:12:10Z")

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More likely the “Lawyer Effect” because of the lawsuits and public backlash from the “Pinto Effect” I don’t remember any other cars that actually had that particular problem.

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/43 "2024-12-03T15:14:34Z")

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> Those gas fillers behind the license plates were a pain at the gas station - they were prone to kicking back gas when the nozzle would shut off, spilling some, to the annoyance of the customer.

In my years of pumping gas, I often spilled lots of gas on the ground, especially with the filler tube behind the license plate. When there were lots of cars waiting for gas, and you were rushing around, spilling gas on the pavement was the last concern on anyone’s mind.

Ironically, no one cared.

Times sure have changed. I think for the better.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/44 "2024-12-03T15:21:46Z")

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> [@JoeMario](#):
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> In my years of pumping gas, I often spilled lots of gas on the ground, especially with the filler tube behind the license plate

+1  
I _really_ disliked filling the tank on cars with those rear fillers. Having to squat behind those cars was not a favorite activity of mine.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/45 "2024-12-03T16:29:47Z")

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> [@JoeMario](#):
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> Ironically, no one cared.

I had one customer ask me “Are you going to pay me for that?” It confused me, he was joking with me the whole time he was there, but it quickly became apparent he wasn’t joking then.

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/47 "2024-12-03T18:11:56Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> Of course you wouldn’t

What other models had this particular problem? And please cite your sources.

> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> You just enjoy refuting every GD thing I’ve ever said on these boards.

Enjoy? Not really, it’s just so easy to do. I can’t pass it up.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/48 "2024-12-03T18:36:57Z")

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Of course, the Pinto had its fuel fill located at the left rear quarter panel not the rear of the car and that had ZERO to do with the problem they experienced where the gas TANK was located behind the rear axle…

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/49 "2024-12-03T18:42:55Z")

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Ok, so maybe not exactly the ‘Pinto effect’, but safety played at least a partial role in eliminating rear-tag fill-up location.

Refute me as any of you wish!

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/50 "2024-12-03T18:56:36Z")

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Partial is right. There is also the propensity to spill fuel when refueling. A huge reason was the inconvenience of the rear filler neck. Being able to pull up to any pump was quickly offset by having to crouch down to insert the nozzle and fill the tank. Right around the same time, self serve gas stations were cropping up in my neck of the woods. Fine to have some gas jockey deal with it, not so great for older folks having to fuel it themselves…

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/51 "2024-12-03T19:14:15Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> Refute me as any of you wish!

You seem to confuse stating an opinion as something worth refuting. You made the claim, back it up.

The under the bumper gas fillers disappeared with the advent of 5 mph bumpers. They couldn’t survive the test undamaged, I would think. They often still hid behind the plate, but it was above the bumper:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/c/2/c2005ce1221c27b1d29cd45ca3cc5c8790b7d23c.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/52 "2024-12-03T20:03:07Z")

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> [@TwinTurbo](#):
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> Fine to have some gas jockey deal with it, not so great for older folks having to fuel it themselves…

Is that why my mom sent me to get gas? 😀

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/53 "2024-12-03T20:40:21Z")

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52 posts, you folks are sure opinionated about what is really just a classic-car issue. I do expect the reason for only one filler on modern cars is b/c of gasoline safety. The exhaust system and filler pipes are both competing for space.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/54 "2024-12-03T20:41:26Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> I do expect the reason for only one filler on modern cars is b/c of gasoline safety.

So what was the reason all the other years? 99% of all cars ever made only had one filler.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/55 "2024-12-03T20:46:31Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> So what was the reason all the other years? 99% of all cars ever made only had one filler.

What do you think it is?

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/56 "2024-12-03T20:48:53Z")

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It was obvious from the beginning - 2 fillers are unneeded and a waste of money.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/christhetirewhisperer/32/34798_2.png) [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ChrisTheTireWhisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/57 "2024-12-03T20:50:13Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> You seem to confuse stating an opinion as  
> something worth refuting. You made the claim,  
> back it up.

It’s not my “opinion” that it was safety-related - EVERY SOURCE ON THE INTERNET says that!

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/58 "2024-12-03T20:53:09Z")

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I didn’t intend to start or extend an argument. Maybe we should agree that cost, safety and need are all factors?

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/59 "2024-12-03T20:58:17Z")

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> [@ChrisTheTireWhisperer](#):
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> It’s not my “opinion” that it was safety-related - EVERY SOURCE ON THE INTERNET says that!

Please provide a link or site. Chevy used the rear filler until '96 on the Impala, so it stuck around for a long time. The one example you cite, the Pinto, didn’t even have a rear filler, it was on the side.

Plenty of cars with side fill tanks keep the tank in pretty much the same location as the Pinto, behind the rear axle, ahead of the rear bumper.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/60 "2024-12-03T21:09:57Z")

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> [@TwinTurbo](#):
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> the Pinto had its fuel fill located at the left rear quarter panel not the rear of the car

Just in case someone doubts that factual information…

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/5/6527d1a701196b5be3339188577fa1a3d580a978.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/do-any-modern-cars-have-2-side-gas-fill-up-capability/198163/61 "2024-12-03T21:42:01Z")

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My dad had a pinto wagon. I don’t know where the tank or filler was. After the big fire scare, he just had a hitch put on and drove on. Actually a nice car. So was my corvair.

I guess I just learned cars are dangerous. So is walking. So is biking. No way to get out of this place alive.

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