# Dealing with the www **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 8, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133 "2024-01-08T18:35:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/61 "2024-01-21T03:48:26Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > I’m not a professional mechanic and I don’t need the internet to do preventative maintenance. Not on your own car, you don’t. But as a pro you do. Unless you can tell me off the top of your head how much and what type of oil goes in a 2012 Audi A6 and what the lug nut torque is and how to reset the maintenance indicator. Put another way, would you want someone working on your car–even a simple oil change–without all the resources to make sure it’s right? > [@MikeInNH](#): > > If you have a business in an area that has flaky internet In that specific instance it was a crew repairing a water main that dug through the cable and killed a 10 block area. So even though the local network was still up I still had no access to Mitchell ShopKey to do so much as bill out an oil change or order a filter. ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/62 "2024-01-21T14:03:04Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > Of course there are work-arounds, but are they worth the effort? When we lost all internet at 2pm and got word that the outage would last 3-5 hours, we just gave up for the day. But since the time clock is web based as well, we had to correct everyone’s time card the next day Has your shop looked into a cellular-based failover system? My wife and I owned retail stores and everything was web-based - point of sale and cc processing. Tough to operate a store when you have 100’s of daily transactions but no way to take payment so we had a failover system. It detects when the internet is down and switches over to the cellular system. 11 guys aren’t going to be able to look up specs simultaneously, but it would at least allow you to take care of most stuff and certainly the critical items. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/63 "2024-01-22T21:19:08Z")
I stopped at the gas station a while back and it wouldn’t take my debit card or anything. Turns out the system was down so had to pre pay with cash. Don’t know whether it was their system or the internet but luckily my purchase was small. Yeah hard to transact business now without computers. ---
**Author:** ![cdaquila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cdaquila/32/18089_2.png) [@cdaquila](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cdaquila)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/64 "2024-01-22T22:18:29Z")
I’m very tardy to this party and am catching up but I noticed you mentioned Car Talk seemed to be getting complicated as well. Is there anything in particular you are finding troublesome? ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/65 "2024-01-24T16:35:56Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > But as a pro you do. Unless you can tell me off the top of your head how much and what type of oil goes in a 2012 Audi A6 Car have an owners manual in the glovebox you can look at? > [@asemaster](#): > > In that specific instance it was a crew repairing a water main that dug through the cable and killed a 10 block area. and as I said - that’s EXTREMELY RARE. We own and operate 4 server sites all over the country. Plus we monitor remote sites in at least 10 different countries. I can count on one hand the number of times we lost complete access to any of these sites for more than a couple hours over the past 10 years. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/66 "2024-02-03T15:18:17Z")
It seemed that the change was the cause of the problem George. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/67 "2024-02-03T15:25:17Z")
Much of cartalk is a pain, Carolyn. Waaaay to much activity on the screen. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/68 "2024-02-03T15:47:45Z")
Your post reminded me that \*when Mitchell went on line forced me to join the www I found cartalk. That was about 1995 as best I can recall ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/69 "2024-04-20T18:24:29Z")
my posts are dropped into the draft slot and difficult to pull them out. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/70 "2024-04-21T21:29:55Z")
> [@Rod-Knox](#): > > posts are dropped into the draft slot and difficult to pull them out. That happens to me if the browser closes unexpectedly while composing a post. The draft save function is a convenience provided by the Car Talk web software so you don’t have to retype the whole thing again. Try this: Click on your own icon, upper right, this page, then the icon of a person (lower right, edge), and from there you should see a link to your open drafts. ---
**Author:** ![cdaquila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cdaquila/32/18089_2.png) [@cdaquila](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cdaquila)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/71 "2024-05-05T15:35:35Z")
Is it hard to pull them up because they turn into a little bar af the bottom? Can you walk me through where the trouble arises? ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/72 "2024-05-05T21:52:07Z")
Well, like I said when I begin to post my post drops out and seems to go be saved as a draft but it’s difficult to dig it out. Amazingly just now my post dropped out but I caught it and continued. Usually I give up and sign out. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133/73 "2024-05-05T22:01:32Z")
> [@Rod-Knox](#): > > when I begin to post my post drops out FYI, I haven’t noticed that problem here myself. Windows/Chrome configuration. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/dealing-with-the-www/194133.md?page=3)