# Deal breakers? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672 "2021-11-15T23:06:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/1 "2021-11-15T23:06:04Z")
Local (St. Louis) newspaper columnist Bill McClellan has owned Hondas for years. But that might be about to change. He had his eye on a 2021 Accord Hybrid until he found out…it doesn’t come with a spare tire. Bill is not a young man and the thought of waiting for a tow if the patch kit wasn’t adequate isn’t appealing. So now he’s keeping an eye out for a Camry Hybrid. (I’d post a link but his column is behind a paywall.) What about you? Any particular deal breakers? ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/2 "2021-11-15T23:22:14Z")
Checked out rav4 and crv, ride of the crv was my deal killer. On the test drive rav hardly noticed tar patch strips in the road, crv sounded terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/3 "2021-11-15T23:24:10Z")
The car only comes in green… deal breaker. I don’t like green cars. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/4 "2021-11-15T23:27:01Z")
Remembering a car salesman I knew, switched to used cars because more money to be made than new, recall him saying green cars do not sell. ---
**Author:** ![Scrapyard-John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Scrapyard-John](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Scrapyard-John)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/5 "2021-11-15T23:29:57Z")
Uncomfortable seats. Every once in awhile, you find a vehicle that you just can’t get comfortable in. Do not buy it! It won’t get better. ---
**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/6 "2021-11-15T23:31:17Z")
tend to stay away from first year redesigned vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/7 "2021-11-15T23:41:49Z")
For me it would be a low ground clearance and to low seating getting in and out as I am 6ft 2in tall. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/8 "2021-11-15T23:44:08Z")
> [@davepsinbox\_157004](#): > > it doesn’t come with a spare tire. And no way to add a compact spare? My deal beakers: Black or white cars. First year of a re-design. Anything European or GM. Any safety nanny that turns the steering wheel or hits the brakes. Tire profile below 55. Big catfish mouth grills. ---
**Author:** ![FoDaddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fodaddy/32/717_2.png) [@FoDaddy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FoDaddy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/9 "2021-11-15T23:51:06Z")
It’s a situational color. It works for some cars, but not that many. For a few cars though, it’s a strike against it if it _isn’t_ green. The Bullitt Mustangs, Any classic British roadster, or a deuce-and-a-half. ---
**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/10 "2021-11-16T00:03:59Z")
> [@circuitsmith](#): > > And no way to add a compact spare? IIRC, the hybrid battery takes up the well that would normally be occupied by the spare. Still, an enterprising dealership ought to be able to throw in a donut spare and a blanket or something to keep it from rattling around. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/11 "2021-11-16T00:06:43Z")
Automatic transmission. Just don’t like 'em. Spare tire configuration? Wouldn’t care very much about that. ---
**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/12 "2021-11-16T00:11:57Z")
My wife is the opposite. I tried teaching her to drive my old stick shift Corolla before we were married and it just didn’t work out. Personally, I’m spoiled by cruise control and I’d want any car of mine to have it. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/13 "2021-11-16T00:16:08Z")
Uncomfortable seats, poor handling, and big mouth grills are my big turnoffs. ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/14 "2021-11-16T00:48:49Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > Automatic transmission. Just don’t like 'em. Agree 100%. ---
**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/15 "2021-11-16T00:54:52Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > Uncomfortable seats Our brother-in-law traded in a brand new Hyundai Sonata for exactly that reason. ---
**Author:** ![woodyandsue\_176929](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ac91a4/32.png) [@woodyandsue\_176929](https://community.cartalk.com/u/woodyandsue_176929)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/16 "2021-11-16T02:47:15Z")
That’s us. Didn’t learn to really drive till I was @30. Crashed right into a ditch when my boyfriend (now husband) swore I could learn to drive a stick. He loves cruise control, too ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 3:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/17 "2021-11-16T03:52:03Z")
I don’t know that there is any one thing for me but a list that I’m looking for like disc brakes, used to be v6, towing, etc. Now my wife says a car must “smile”. Never noticed it before but some cars look grumpy in the front and some seem to smile. The Acura smiles. If they change it to grumpy, that will be our last Acura regardless of features. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/18 "2021-11-16T04:12:27Z")
Maybe this? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/b/dbe401eff3dcac2789d532d5b0d3af84d3b36973.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 4:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/19 "2021-11-16T04:16:04Z")
I thought she was doing fine except for when she killed the engine at a light because she didn’t use the clutch. But then later I patted her on the back and her top was soaked. I had no clue how nervous she was. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 4:39am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/deal-breakers/180672/20 "2021-11-16T04:39:05Z")
> [@Barkydog](#): > > Maybe this? Yeah but only with some teeth.