# Covid and cars

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 9, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473 "2020-08-09T21:53:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/61 "2020-08-11T20:55:50Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> “mask mouth”

Simple solution - breath through your nose. This is a problem for those who dry out their mouths by keeping them open.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/62 "2020-08-11T21:00:55Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> Simple solution - breath through your nose

Of course, but hopefully people remember to cover their nose with their mask.  
Every time I see someone whose nose is exposed above their mask, I am tempted to ask them if their nose is functioning.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/63 "2020-08-11T21:04:33Z")

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Another solution is brush your teeth daily.

My job over the last 30 years entailed wearing surgical masks daily, sometimes for more than 8 hours. I never experienced mask mouth, and I never met anyone in that time that complained of it. @bing, please site examples if people that have mouth problems that doctors have attributed to masks.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/64 "2020-08-11T21:30:34Z")

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_“please site examples if people that have mouth problems that doctors have attributed to masks.”_

Sorry don’t have names and that would be private information anyway. Just thought it was an interesting side effect. Of course science experts and epidemiologists disagree on just about everything concerning the virus. Fact is many things are unknown and unproven. Not anti-science, just unknown. I’ve seen people wearing masks in their car, bike riding, and walking outside. Cause and effect hard to determine but personally I think mass socialization is in there somewhere.

> **[‘Mask mouth’ is a seriously stinky side effect of wearing masks](https://nypost.com/2020/08/05/mask-mouth-is-a-seriously-stinky-side-effect-of-wearing-masks/)**
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> Some bad breath just can’t be masked.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/65 "2020-08-11T21:32:42Z")

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Like I said, problem is people breathing with their mouth open. Dries out the mouth, leading, supposedly, to these problems. Just close it, breath through your nose (inside the mask, of course).

Certain folks will try to make WAY more out of this than is warranted…

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**Author:** ![pyrolord314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6a8cbe/32.png) [@pyrolord314](https://community.cartalk.com/u/pyrolord314)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/66 "2020-08-11T21:35:47Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> My best friend is a nurse who was assigned to an all-COVID unit for 3 1/2 months, until NJ flattened its curve via mask requirements, and our COVID units were disbanded. He typically wore an N-95 mask–with a “regular” surgical mask over the N-95–for 14 hours per day, during that 3 month period. Luckily, he has not experienced any dental problems or any of the truly mythical medical maladies that the anti-science, anti-mask people have claimed.
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> However, I asked him about this “mask mouth” issue, and his answer was:  
> _If I had to choose, I would prefer to be a living person with dental problems, rather than a corpse with beautiful teeth._

Not a nurse, but I’ve been gowned up, goggled up, masked up (both N95 and surgical) continuously since it started and not only agree with your friend, but I’ve noticed no ill effects towards my teeth. Definitely brushing twice a day likely helps.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/67 "2020-08-11T21:38:08Z")

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> [@pyrolord314](#):
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> I’ve noticed no ill effects towards my teeth.

Of course, but that reality doesn’t stop people who have a political agenda from trying–even in subtle ways–to urge people to stop wearing a face mask.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/68 "2020-08-11T21:50:48Z")

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Ten character minimum.

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/69 "2020-08-11T22:26:41Z")

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I personally do not wear a mask unless I am mandated to and that’s only in a physician’s office or something like that.  
In the past 2.5 years I’ve gone through 2 open hearts and have trouble breathing at times. With a mask on I start sweating profusely within 15 to 20 minutes, start getting short of breath, and become dizzy. While in a cell phone store a few months back I had to excuse myself and leave because another 10 minutes and I would have been out cold on the floor.

The doc says no mask as passing out is his main concern. That has happened twice; both times before the heart surgeries. He offered to write me a note but I refused that offer as I felt it would just create problems for others who might decide to get confrontational with me and I do not handle confrontation very well as those who know me would attest to. The one in a million is why I started concealed carry again.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/70 "2020-08-12T01:00:20Z")

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> [@jtsanders](#):
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> Another solution is brush your teeth daily.

I’m already doing that . . .

But I can’t speak for anybody else 🤓

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/71 "2020-08-12T01:27:10Z")

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It seems to me that mask mouth is a symptom of poor oral hygiene.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/72 "2020-08-12T01:57:07Z")

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I wonder if folks homemade masks are part of the problem. It seems like it would be hard to diy a proper functioning mask, both blocking the correct particles and having enough flow rate. The worker at a nearby store doesnt wear mask even tho it is legally reqd. Asked why he said he couldnt breath. His mask was the bandit style, bandana, very tight weave. I can understand why that would sufficate. Weird in so called hi tech usa we have to diy masks.

I use store bought surgical masks which i sterilize and reuse . Had a pack of 60 prior to pandemic . Impossible to buy new ones now. These are no bother for normal activities but cant use them during mt biking not enough flow. Only problem i notice is dry skin under mask.

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/73 "2020-08-12T01:58:39Z")

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I feel strongly about your right to bear arms, I used to hunt, was on a rifle team in High School but have never felt the need for me to own a gun.  
I do advise all hand gun owners from out of state, please do not bring your gun if you travel to NY State. If you are caught you WILL be charged with a felony. They do not care if you have a permit from your state. I don’t think that is constitutional, but I am not in charge. Why can a state have to honor your drivers license but not your pistol permit?

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/74 "2020-08-12T02:15:34Z")

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> [@oldtimer-11](#):
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> Why can a state have to honor your drivers license but not your pistol permit?

If you recall, this was a proposal but with the current state of Congress it didn’t go anywhere.

The thing with the home made masks though was due (do) to (too) a nation-wide shortage of PPE. A good portion of the manufacturing capacity had been shifted to China and they weren’t selling, so it took a while to re-source material and get the lines producing again. The other issue was folks were working on more of a JIT inventory and didn’t have a safety stock to draw on. After the last pandemic, Minnesota had a good stockpile, but alas they were all thrown away due to outdates and not replaced according to my source. I thought we had learned our lesson way back with 3M working three shifts to meet demand but a new bunch of kids took over.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/75 "2020-08-12T02:22:28Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> I wonder if folks homemade masks are part of the problem. It seems like it would be hard to diy a proper functioning mask, both blocking the correct particles and having enough flow rate.

Not the problem. Masks made out of most common fabrics work fine to knock down particles. That’s the goal.

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/76 "2020-08-12T02:30:14Z")

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People have visions of huge warehouses stocked with months worth of inventory. That does not exist anymore. There are still huge warehouses but they are more staging and sorting facilities than storage. Businesses have found out that just in time delivery saves them money, and that running out of things occasionally is more profitable that having a large inventory to store.

(f not for the timely delivery aspect, there would not be a long haul trucking industry. Rail and ship are much, much cheaper per ton than trucking but they have consistently failed at on time delivery.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/77 "2020-08-12T03:21:10Z")

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There’s been testing done that shows certain weave density is actually worse than no mask because it actually breaks up the big droplets, resulting smaller droplets that will stay airborne longer. They presented data showing various materials and their performance…

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/78 "2020-08-12T03:50:41Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> I use store bought surgical masks which i sterilize and reuse . Had a pack of 60 prior to pandemic . Impossible to buy new ones now.

I also live in California, and I have zero problems buying those blue surgical masks

Lots of pharmacies have them for sale . . . right at the cash register(s)

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/79 "2020-08-12T04:02:13Z")

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I think my black shift knob is turning gray from hand sanitizer.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/covid-and-cars/168473/80 "2020-08-12T04:09:48Z")

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> [@Barkydog](#):
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> I think my black shift knob is turning gray from hand sanitizer.

We use the disinfecting wipes at work . . . and they definitely leave a residue on the plastic surfaces of the dashboards, radios, shift knobs and so forth

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