Car Loan Delinquencies are at a 15 year high

[ledhed75]

@bing

Maybe the reason why they just weren’t dead on the road was that there weren’t 20 sensors to go bad and kill the engine. Or a computer to screw up and cause a stall. Just the basics is all.

With all due respect, using that logic… we should still treat all heart disease with open heart surgery. Even though it was more invasive to the body… it was likely “cheaper” and “simpler”. No need for any fancy stents or less invasive “computer” procedures. Just bring out the bone saw, boys…

[bing]

Fail to see the point. Open heart surgery was never cheaper or safer. Breaking the rib cage to get at the critical part was traumatic and a last resort. Pace makers, stents, and non invasive procedures were much cheaper and safer.

Multiple sensors and computers are necessary for getting the most efficiency out of mechanical devices, but when they fail you can be left on the side of the road. A reasonable trade off. As sowell says there are no solutions, just trade offs.

[VDCdriver]

@ledhed75

With all due respect, using that logic… we should still treat all heart disease with open heart surgery. Even though it was more invasive to the body… it was likely “cheaper” and “simpler”. No need for any fancy stents or less invasive “computer” procedures. Just bring out the bone saw, boys…

Yup!
Circa 1958, the doctors were “stumped” by my aunt’s condition, and they narrowed it down to “either heart disease or cancer”. Huh? They narrowed it down to totally-different diseases. Their only diagnostic solution was to open up her chest and abdomen in order to do “exploratory surgery”.

Thankfully, despite the inherent risks with that type of extreme surgery, she survived the procedure and they found out that she had an “inverted heart”. Even with the relatively crude treatments for heart problems in those days, she managed to survive for another 6 years or so.

The Good Old Days… when modern medical technology and non-invasive diagnostic tests were unknown, they had to resort to opening up one’s body in order to do a visual check. She survived that surgery, but not everyone was that lucky in those days.

[Old-Days-Rick]

@bcohen2010

Gone are the days of the Dodge Shadow, Ford Tempo, Chevrolet Cavalier, which could survive years of missed oil changes, old dirty coolant, etc. Modern engines will quickly develop sludge buildup, VVT and timing chain issues, etc. if they aren’t properly maintained.

This is absolutely correct. Most on here fo not like these fars because thry do nog have 300 horsepower or whiz bang gadgetry but those cars especially the old cavaliers would run on hope and a prayer, not running because of how thry were maintained but in spite of how they were maintained.

These new economy cars with turbos and cvts will NEVER last as long as the economy cars from the 70s- early 00s

[texases]

Yep, I see Cavaliers all over the place, the high point of reliable high quality transportation