# Can we trust driverless cars **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 6, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216 "2016-05-06T18:08:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/121 "2016-05-17T22:30:48Z")
I don’t think it needs the white lines. I “think” it can determine the width of road and then calculate lane position. Also GPs can help also. ---
**Author:** ![Honda-Blackbird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/honda-blackbird/32/3159_2.png) [@Honda-Blackbird](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Honda-Blackbird)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/122 "2016-05-18T05:01:49Z")
It would be folly to allow the driverless cars to use painted lines for any kind of Nav duties…That wouldn’t be the way to go about it. Otherwise it could be like in the Road Runner cartoons where The Coyote paints a road w lines and a tunnel on the surface of the Solid Red Rocks of the desert… I think @MikeInNH has the true aspects covered…that sounds more like it. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/123 "2016-05-18T05:09:51Z")
Honda, you must have seen the way they paint roads in my town. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/124 "2016-05-18T05:29:02Z")
But a driver (human or computer) still has to follow the white lines. A road may narrow from 2 lanes to 1 lane while the overall width of the road remains the same. I can easily think of several of these. … and there is no way to know that from measurements. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/125 "2016-05-18T05:44:38Z")
Read about one google car accident, a manhole cover was missing, car fail, now I am not usually looking for manhole lids missing, but enjoy the prospect of a self driving car, Sure there are estimates it will increase road traffic due to sending the car out more often than a person might go if they had to drive, pick up online grocery order etc. but I think an analogy would be doing math or use a calculator, drive a car, or let the car drive itself. I think we tend as a spcies to take the path of least resistance, and can see the self driving car as a viable alternative to driver operated vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/126 "2016-05-18T19:12:13Z")
I’ll bet that the missing manhole cover has now been added to its detection software. As I said…it’s an evolving technology…soon to be ready for prime time. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/127 "2016-05-19T01:25:29Z")
Interesting point, Mike. The updated software will probably be more likely to detect a missing personhole cover than a human driver. ---
**Author:** ![BillRussell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billrussell/32/3179_2.png) [@BillRussell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/BillRussell)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/128 "2016-05-19T01:50:18Z")
By some coincidence, a news story today: Car rolls over person working in Easton manhole. > **[Car rolls over person working in manhole](http://www.wcvb.com/article/car-rolls-over-person-working-in-easton-manhole/8235093)** > > A 44-year-old man is injured when he was struck by a car while working in a manhole on Foundry Street in Easton about 10:30 a.m. Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/129 "2016-05-19T03:04:01Z")
That is why they make cones and barricades. I was called to a site once, drove over an open manhole, , no cones no barricaides, no traffic control whatever and the contractor is like “explative” there is a guy in that hole if he would have come up you would have hit him. Another utility inspector on site says what the hell do you expect, you need to take proper precautions, it is your failure to protect your workers and follow standards. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/130 "2016-05-19T05:33:30Z")
A phone call to OSHA would have cooled their heels. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/131 "2016-05-19T05:49:17Z")
Yeah, I was still young and naive enough to think I had made a mistake, and ready to apologize, probably If old Gene would not have been there I would have, but I never drive over an open manhole anymore, but appreciated the other inspector at that point ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/132 "2016-05-19T06:21:54Z")
Notice that person hole cover had an extra white stripe on it? Just one of the meaningless things that drives me nuts if they don’t put the cover back to match where the stripe was. No job is too small to be done right. No additional cost. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/133 "2016-05-19T06:30:28Z")
Ya know getting the stripe right is just one of those little things, sure if it was me I would try, but stuff happens, ![](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lS4fKK5ChsE/UajUX10vRLI/AAAAAAAApsE/8vi_7mSQmTA/s1600/6+sotp.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/134 "2016-05-19T09:38:13Z")
LOL. Well you get the idea anyway. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/135 "2016-05-19T16:14:55Z")
> **Notice that person hole cover had an extra white stripe on it? Just one of the meaningless things that drives me nuts if they don't put the cover back to match where the stripe was.** I’ve yet to see the DPW workers put the manhole cover back on so the stripes line up. I’m quite sure they do it on purpose to be funny (aka… and \*ss). ---
**Author:** ![Honda-Blackbird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/honda-blackbird/32/3159_2.png) [@Honda-Blackbird](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Honda-Blackbird)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/136 "2016-05-19T17:03:14Z")
Hey @“the same mountainbike” … Are we supposed to be using “Personhole” instead of “Manhole”? They both have somewhat hilarious connotations… In fact everything about those two words is funny to me. Blackbird ---
**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/137 "2016-05-19T17:04:56Z")
@HondaBlackbird In another post someone coined the word “Jenner Hole Cover” which seems rather appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Honda-Blackbird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/honda-blackbird/32/3159_2.png) [@Honda-Blackbird](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Honda-Blackbird)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/138 "2016-05-19T17:20:00Z")
Oh NO ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/139 "2016-05-19T20:59:11Z")
Yeah, that drives the CDO types nuts! (CDO is OCD but with the letters in the right order;) I saw a post once that had a pic of a cover with the stripe shifted and said, “if you’re OCD, this cover is at the corner of…” ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216/140 "2016-05-19T21:42:58Z")
That’s probably a stretch but I have to go wash my hands and check the doors to make sure they’re locked. Some of us just grew up with shutting lights off when you leave the room, and being a little sensitive to the artistic side of order. Especially when it doesn’t cost any more to do something correctly in the first place. Probably why those Scions (?) with the asymmetrical rear ends kind of drove me nuts too. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/can-we-trust-driverless-cars/93216.md?page=6)