# Camber issue **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 10, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810 "2020-09-10T23:16:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/1 "2020-09-10T23:16:13Z")
I got new front wheels and tires and noticed 1 wheel has slight negative camber and the other has positive camber. I held a 2’ level against each tire and it’s not my imagination. You should not be able to see different camber should you? Newer struts, newer control arms. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/2 "2020-09-11T09:54:57Z")
Is the car sitting on a level surface? ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/3 "2020-09-11T10:47:40Z")
Whether or not your can see camber depends on you eyesight more that anything else. You can fix the camber problem pretty easily. The side that is more negative can be adjusted by letting the strut hang, loosen the 2 bolts holding the lower bracket, pry it towards more positive and tighten. The positive side is done similar but place a jack under the rotor hat section and jack up just a little and tighten. Then measure the camber properly to see what you have. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/4 "2020-09-11T11:30:11Z")
I replaced the strut where the camber seems positive. There are no slots in the bolt holes. There is a tiny bit of adjustment due to oversized holes. I still have the 1st strut which looks fairly new. I was told it was 2-3 yrs old. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 11:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/5 "2020-09-11T11:41:36Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > I replaced the strut where the camber seems positive. There are no slots in the bolt holes. There is a tiny bit of adjustment due to oversized holes. Correct. My advice stands. If it doesn’t correct the camber enough, use a rat tail file on the lower mounting hole to elongate the holes a small amount outboard. Light jack pressure under the rotor hat and tighten. Re-measure, repeat as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/6 "2020-09-11T14:26:08Z")
Looks like I should check how much adjustment I really have. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/7 "2020-09-11T14:58:28Z")
With those parts being replaced, I’d have a shop do an alignment. ---
**Author:** ![keith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/keith/32/5518_2.png) [@keith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/keith)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/8 "2020-09-12T19:54:16Z")
To start with, I would replace the struts in pairs, not one at a time. I don’t know your vehicle but some vehicles have an elongated hole, the top hole at the bottom of the strut. It appears yours does not but there is a tiny bit of play between the two bottom mounting bolts. If you need more, there are concentric bolts available for most vehicles for more camber adjustment. Some vehicles camber can be adjusted at the top of the upper strut mount where it bolts to the strut tower. Again there is a tiny bit of play if there is no adjustment. A 2’ level probably isn’t the best thing to use for measuring the camber especially if the car is on the ground. You are measuring off the tire and that can introduce some error. Best if measuring on the ground is a piece of angle iron cut to fit just inside the outer lip of the rim. It is better to get two jacks and jack up each front wheel by the lower ball joint or just inboard of the lower ball joint on the lower control arm. Use your level to make sure the car is level side to side, the radiator should be a good reference. Then remove the wheels and use the hub or rotor surface to take your readings. You can also try making the adjustments at this point too. Use a small torpedo level, there is no advantage to a long level for this. A long level in this application is NOT more accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/9 "2020-09-12T23:40:41Z")
It’s an equinox, I have several. I fix the heads. Sort of my hobby.Runs fine shifts fine good ac cept for noisy front end. I pulled off calipers today and noticed it does not have caliper pins with the rubber bushings for noise issues. So I put them on. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/7/5/7531f3017a2e46ad224a6e28762c4be573f9023c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/10 "2020-09-13T02:52:25Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > I got new front wheels and tires and noticed 1 wheel has slight negative camber and the other has positive camber. I wonder if your cradle has shifted . . . ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/11 "2020-09-13T13:36:55Z")
Equinoxes/vues are known for cradle rust. It’s solid. I got new wheels/tires for winter and have been trying to dial in noise/ride issues before it snows. I park in front of my office window and can easily see the tires. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/3/a30532d0d9920460d02eea285df8d09afd7b38e9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/12 "2020-09-13T16:19:25Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > Equinoxes/vues are known for cradle rust. It’s solid So the cradle is solid . . . That still doesn’t mean it can’t slightly shift, due to rusty and/or loose hardware On one of my previous cars, the cradle DID shift The cradle itself was in great shape But the hardware was NOT, because the design was such that moisture over the years attacked the hardware only ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/13 "2020-09-25T15:26:51Z")
Solved issue. Sold it. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/camber-issue/169810/14 "2020-09-26T19:49:06Z")
I had a 94 Mitsubishi Gallant. They had a double wishbone front end like an Accord and handled very well. Suddenly the steering had to be pointed to the right to go straight ahead. The car was less than a year old so I went to the dealer and told them I thought it needed an alignment. They looked at it and said, the alignment was fine, the engine cradle had shifted. I told them I hoped they tightened the bolts good or it might happen again.