Really? American market cars come with tire pressure monitors. My TPMS values are the same as my tire pressure gauge.
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The only time that I still use my hand-held pressure gauge is when I am adjusting tire pressure.
There are 2 things I want to emphasize about these new regulations:
1). There will be a publicly available database on all tires sold in California, which will include rolling resistance data, UTQG ratings, and other useful information. This would be a first for the US.
2). The regulations include categories for " Long Life" tires and “Ultra Long Life” tires. These would be tires that COULD be rated 1,000 and 1,400 for UTQG tread wear if the manufacturer chose to do so. It is obvious that these must exist even though the current highest value is 880.
Yep, TPMS became mandatory for all new light motor vehicles in the United States starting September 1, 2007…
You say, “if the public could be pursuaded to mind the basics:”…
If you cannot convince the members of this forum (folks who are by far more interested in the safe operation of their vehicles…) how on Earth do you expect the “Public” (folks who are more interested in the price, “out the door, today…”) to care about anything as “Ethereal” as good mileage, good stopping power, good road holding capability, etc… when most let their mechanics check their tire pressure when they get their oil changed?
As long as the pressure in the tires on anything that comes in for service is around 35psi it’s good enough, even for ASEs. They’ll adjust it only if they gauge something really out there, like 27psi at one corner, or all the tires at 45psi because the owner went off the tire max pressure instead of opening their door.
Even the Macan that specifies 33 front 36 rear (36/39 hot).
I’m responsible to me, keeping myself out of debt by not running into things and people, above all else. How I accomplish this is really my own business. But the whole point of this thread isn’t safety. It’s about choice. As I understand it, the new regulation aims to remove tires that don’t meet rolling resistance specs and has nothing to do with tire safety.
Many times over my career I had wished that I as a mechanic or shop could take a car off the road because it’s unsafe. But the fact is, my freedom to choose means that I also have to accept the risk of driving on the road with people who don’t maintain their cars as well as I do.
It’s a noteworthy event in the shop to check all 4 tires and find that none of them need to be aired up or down.
One way to view this new regulation is it’s not much different than the fuel economy standards vehicles have followed for decades. Both aimed at reducing fuel consumption.
I was referring to the fact that the Philippine/Asian market version of the Toyota 2024 Yaris came with a full-size spare tire, vs U.S. market versions that got only a temporary (donut) spare, or possibly a pump to fill up the leaky tire.
Would you possibly be referring to Gimbels department stores?
We had a Gimbels branch in Stamford CT where I grew up, in the same up-town shoppng center as a Sears Roebucks store. The Gimbels sold mainly mens and womens’ fashions, perhaps a limited line of household accessories, but nothing of an automotive nature, let alone the sales and install of tires.
By the way, my response to you regarding my experience with our friend’s 2024 Vios/Yaris in the Philippines:
Were you, or anyone else here, offended with my recount of what happened to the tires on it?
It was flagged and removed for being allegedly “offensive” or otherwise inappropriate.
You have not considered the road conditions in the two countries and the driving habits of the folks living here and there… Obviously, Toyota has…
I have ridden in cars in both the Philippines and United States, and honestly, can state that both countries have their share of rough and smooth roads.
Roads in the Cordillera (mountainous) provinces certainly have more ups and downs, twists and turns than the low lands.
However, I maintain that the decision to ‘cheap out’ on the North American/U.S. version of certain models is an economic one, perhaps driven also to meet U.S. corporate fuel economy standards (a donut spare, or no spare, reduces weight), as well as offer Americans a lower price for the same car.
DISCLAIMER: If any offense is taken to my above comments, I meant no harm in same comments.
No gamble skogmoe was a Midwest chain.
I don’t flag unless for language, dangerous, or clearly wrong or stupid. I don’t allow some folks though to go unchallenged which generates some flags.
Well that kind of nails it down. Thanks!
I wish the ones that do take offense would message me privately to sort out our differences, rather than flag perfectly polite content for unnecessary removal.
That reminded me, the tempo stores were like a Walmart and part of the gamble organization. I forget the actual history now. I bought my ten speed bike at tempo for $100 in 1972. We had only one car and I worked nights so used it for commuting. I’d load the bike in the trunk and deliver the car for my wife, then bike to work and home again at midnight. Still got it hanging in the garage but the tires are shot and so am I.
Then in 1974 paid $80 there for a calculator for work to avoid having to add up lengthy columns of numbers. They were too cheap to buy calculators. Only the accounting office could have them. So yeah I made a lot of changes but the cancer persisted and never looked back after 35 years. My lawyer called it a snake pit.
Perhaps it was flagged for the wrong reason, did it have something to do with Barry’s discussion on California’s tire regulations, or did you hijack the discussion to announce that someone living on an island had low tire pressures?
The state of California is aware of the under inflated tire problem, it is prevalent everywhere. For the last twenty years, repair shops in California have been required to inflate vehicle tires during every service visit. You might save your tire pressure complaints for a different discussion.
you clearly have no idea how you come across
or you don’t care
in any case, you really need to brush up on those social skills
Wow!!! I have been on here for 3 years now and don’t remember ever seeing Nevada being Flagged… Clearly an admin or moderator hasn’t seen the post since none have been on in the last 12ish hours and the post was only made 3ish hours ago…
I would like to see the post in question, if it was within the boundary’s of the forum rules and it was just flagged out of spite, then I think the one doing the flagging should be banned for a time… And the way the following post reads, it was flagged out of pure spite… just my 2 cents worth… YMMV
Me suspecks it is only one or one of two individuals doing all the flagging in here.
And I’m already liking someone for it.
Typical California overregulation forcing a fix no one is asking for and which is not needed.
This is why we can’t have nice things.