# Cadillac. How is the company?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 23, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069 "2020-08-23T02:10:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/21 "2020-08-23T15:34:37Z")

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New Cadillac lease every few years and a casino to boot. Talk about a double edged sword.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/22 "2020-08-23T15:39:41Z")

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> [@AudiFlyGuy](#):
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> Didn’t buy but thought the car rode and drove well

Shouldn’t that be the main criteria for the car you drive? I mean if a bunch of us here tell you that a Toyota or Lexus is a better value but you don’t like driving the car what have you gained?

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/23 "2020-08-23T15:45:51Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> You know, like how some people buy expensive homes and vehicles that they really don’t need–and can barely afford–to show off that they’re “successful” and have “made it” in life.

Occasionally the opposite is true. A couple of years ago my wife was looking at cars. She drove everything out there, I mean everything. By the time I had gone along on 12 test drives of different makes and models I was done and told her she was on her own to pick the car. After 3 months of looking she ordered a brand new Cadillac.

To this day she still says she can’t believe she bought a Cadillac, that that’s the last kind of car she would ever own. She seems almost embarrassed to say she drives one. But the fact remains that the car was the only one that met all her requirements and she loves driving it.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/24 "2020-08-23T16:17:17Z")

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> [@ok4450](#):
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> New Cadillac lease every few years and a casino to boot. Talk about a double edged sword.

Indeed!  
He used to own his own home, but he and his wife now live in a tiny apartment, in a neighborhood that is marginal–at best. This is because of his “winning ways” at the casino. But, he drives a new Caddy every few years!

I have compassion for people who fall into misfortune that is not of their own doing.  
But, I have little or no compassion for people who shoot themselves in the foot… over and over again.

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**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/25 "2020-08-23T16:49:31Z")

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Car brands are like opinions. Varied. If a Cadillac fits the bill for Person A, B, or C then I’m fine with it. I just happen to think their styling sucks and has for a long time.  
Cadillac sales have been trending downward for a long time (and I’m by no means an analyst of any sort) but it just seems to me that their days are numbered.  
And they seem to have horrendous depreciation. 2015 models that stickered for 72 to 82 grand are going for 25 to 30; and less. Even if I loved the cars that would be hard to stomach.

As for casinos, I’ve been in one and that was for a concert a year or so ago. If anyone is ever in southern OK on I-35 take a look at the Winstar. That place is a small city unto itself. Twenty story hotel, shops, massive swimming pool, countless valets to handle parking, and of course; a pawn shop just south of there where one can finish unloading what little assets they have left. Tower with Big Ben, the Roman Coliseum, and the Arc de Triomphe are all part of the “World Casino”.  
It’s a long walk across the parking lot unless one wants to wait for a valet at the entrance. That is similar to the entrance at O’Hare airport in Chicago; a logjam of cars.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/26 "2020-08-23T18:16:20Z")

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Seems to me losing one more brand, GM might as well just go back to the old days of just being Chevrolet. It take real talent to kill off as many good brands as they have but it looks like Mary is up to the task.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/27 "2020-08-23T18:41:05Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> GM might as well just go back to the old days of just being Chevrolet

Not quite:  
" GM’s first acquisition was Buick, which Durant already owned, then [Oldsmobile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile) on November 12, 1908. In 1909 Durant brought in [Cadillac](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac), [Elmore](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmore_(automobile)), [Oakland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_(automobile)) (predecessor of [Pontiac](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac)), and the Reliance Motor Truck Company of [Owosso, Michigan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owosso,_Michigan) and the Rapid Motor Vehicle Company of [Pontiac, Michigan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac,_Michigan) (predecessors of [GMC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMC_(automobile))). Durant over-leveraged the fledgling company in making these acquisitions, and was removed by the board of directors in 1910 at the behest of the bankers who backed the loans to keep GM in business.

Durant re-entered the automotive industry the following year by co-founding the [Chevrolet Motor Company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet) with Swiss race car driver [Louis Chevrolet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Chevrolet) (who left the company bearing his name in 1915). In 1916 GM was reincorporated in [Detroit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit) as _General Motors Corporation_ . By 1917 the Chevrolet Motor Company had become successful enough that Durant, with the backing of McLaughlin and [Pierre S. du Pont](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_S._du_Pont), reacquired a controlling interest in GM. Chevrolet Motor Company was consolidated into GM on May 2, 1918. Only two years later du Pont orchestrated the removal of Durant once again and replaced him with [Alfred P. Sloan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_P._Sloan)."

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/cadillac-how-is-the-company/169069/28 "2020-08-23T20:01:01Z")

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> [@bcohen2010](#):
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> These days, Cadillac is doing better than Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Saturn,

That’s not a very high benchmark, considering those divisions are all gone 😃

> [@bing](#):
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> The minute I’d buy a new car, he’d have to trade again

Sounds like your boss felt he had something to prove . . .

I’ve known a few guys like that over the years

I worked with a guy who would borrow my tools occasionally. They would allow him to do the job, and he’d remark how nice my tools were and how well they worked. Then the next week he’d buy the newer version of the tool he borrowed, and he’d walk around the shop, bragging about him having the latest and greatest

Needless to say, I eventually stopped lending him tools

> [@ok4450](#):
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> Cadillac styling has left me cold for a long time.

I agree . . . there’s nothing distinctive about them, in my opinion.  
they’re so generic, you could slap just about any logo you want on it. And I don’t like the angular lines, either

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