# CA CARB complaint catalytic converter replacement

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** camry\
**Created:** [January 23, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152 "2019-01-23T02:40:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jerome\_Plotnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@Jerome\_Plotnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Jerome_Plotnick)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/1 "2019-01-23T02:40:18Z")

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Does anyone know where I can obtain a CA CARB compliant CAT Converter for under $300.00 front exhaust to converter? Does anyone know if the 1987 Toyota Camry 2.0 4 cyl. FI XLE had 2 converters a front CAT from the exhaust and one inline before the muffler? Thanks, Jerome

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/2 "2019-01-23T02:51:03Z")

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Rock Auto doesn’t have one for under $300.00

[https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/toyota,1987,camry,2.0l+l4,1272798,exhaust+&+emission,catalytic+converter,5808](https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/toyota,1987,camry,2.0l+l4,1272798,exhaust+&+emission,catalytic+converter,5808)

Tester

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/3 "2019-01-23T10:52:07Z")

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> [@Jerome\_Plotnick](#):
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> Does anyone know where I can obtain a CA CARB compliant CAT Converter for under $300.00 front exhaust to converter? Does anyone know if the 1987 Toyota Camry 2.0 4 cyl. FI XLE had 2 converters a front CAT from the exhaust and one inline before the muffler? Thanks, Jerome

I know this isn’t the answer you want. GOOGLE. Ever heard of it. Lots and lots of good stuff there if you just look.

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/4 "2019-01-23T20:28:48Z")

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A 1987 Camry is over 25 years old, which makes it exempt from Federal Emissions. California’s time limit is 30 years, which you also are beyond.

Have you pursued a waiver because you are no longer required to pass emissions?

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/5 "2019-01-23T20:41:18Z")

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That car requires an emissions test. In California gasoline vehicles 1975 and older are exempt.

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/6 "2019-01-23T21:01:02Z")

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Thanks Nevada:  
I read the California requirements too quickly. Here’s the relevant piece from their website:

> Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?
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> Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:
> 
> ```
> Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
> Diesel powered 1997 year model and older or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs
> Electric
> Natural gas powered with a GVWR rating of more than 14,000 lbs.
> Motorcycle
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> ```

Thanks for catching my error.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/7 "2019-01-24T00:44:55Z")

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The best option is to go to a reputable exhaust shop and pay them to weld in a new catalytic converter which is legal for use in CA

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/8 "2019-01-24T02:17:38Z")

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> [@Jerome\_Plotnick](#):
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> Does anyone know if the 1987 Toyota Camry 2.0 4 cyl. FI XLE had 2 converters a front CAT from the exhaust and one inline before the muffler?

From what I can tell the 87 Camry’s 3s-fe 2 L 4-banger engine has only one cat. Besides the cat, the exhaust system is compromised of an exhaust manifold, exhaust pipe, exhaust resonator, and muffler.

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**Author:** ![tedamich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b3f665/32.png) [@tedamich](https://community.cartalk.com/u/tedamich)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/9 "2019-07-08T01:38:07Z")

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Fun Fact The CARB Compliant Catalytic converters are identical to non compliant models, they simply have longer warranties as required by CA law. And for this you will PAY PAY PAY. Worst CARB inspectors will actually check PN against list, while some will not.

Another fun fact Outboard 2-Cycle motor oil (TC-W3) ~2-4oz per gas tank will bring NOx emissions to zero 🙂 10-20% Methanol will do something similar to HC… hey my old CAT works just fine!

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/10 "2019-07-08T01:47:15Z")

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> [@tedamich](#):
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> Worst CARB inspectors will actually check PN against list, while some will not.

I’m one of those smog inspectors that you’re referring to

When a smog inspector in my area . . . Los Angeles, in case you care . . . encounters an aftermarket catalytic converter, they are REQUIRED to note the numbers and check on the appropriate website to make sure it’s certified for use on that particular car, including engine, model year, and so forth

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/11 "2019-07-08T01:50:04Z")

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> [@tedamich](#):
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> 10-20% Methanol will do something similar to HC

The web seems to confirm a 20% mix will significantly reduce HC. Does a considerably better job than EtOH. But I’d worry about the effect of methanol on the fuel system. Corrosion problems etc.

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**Author:** ![CapitalTruck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capitaltruck/32/16592_2.png) [@CapitalTruck](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapitalTruck)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ca-carb-complaint-catalytic-converter-replacement/133152/12 "2019-07-08T17:31:17Z")

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Man, are you serious, you really do PAY! I had an Accord back in the day that had a CA emissions on it. Had to replace cat. CA converter was really high $. Having said that, this  
Accord was ULEV whereas a bunch of others were only LEV.
