# Breaking this New York City law could cost you up to $2K in just 3 minutes **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 11, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700 "2024-04-11T02:38:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/41 "2024-04-13T13:27:00Z")
> [@VDCdriver](#): > > If I need to go to Manhattan, I drive to Jersey City, use reasonably-priced public parking, and take the PATH train into Manhattan. I’m up north, so I drive into CT and stay in Stamford CT. There are several Hotels nearby that have bus service to the train. Stamford is a huge hub. We take the Harlem line into Grand Central. Then from there you can get anywhere in the city. Last time we were there we saw the 9/11 mamorial and took the guided tour. Well worth it. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/42 "2024-04-13T13:27:52Z")
Many decisions people make are based on incomplete knowledge or irrational fears. When I flew a lot for work I occasionally sat near someone, usually old, that had never flown before and was terrified. I told them that I had flown about 2 million miles and always made it home without injury. That made them feel better, knowing from first had experience how safe flying is. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/43 "2024-04-13T13:28:03Z")
> [@Clueless33](#): > > where the pilot announced she could not see to land the plane due to weather condition. I was confused because I thought planes could land by themselves Most can however it is a last resort in case of emergency and no other options. If they can divert, they will. It is usually the safer option to have a human execute the landing. Auto landing requires the right equipment on the plane and on the ground. Most modern airplanes and airports are capable. Even my brother’s Piper Seneca had enough sophisticated radio stack to get the plane to the airport and line it up for landing by autopilot. The pilot needed to execute the most critical part of flying- the actual landing. Modern commercial airliners can do it all. My condolences on your loss. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/44 "2024-04-13T13:34:14Z")
> [@Clueless33](#): > > Honestly, I’ve avoided numerous car accidents on the road by having control of the situation. Then I had two horrifying experiences on a commercial plane ( JETBLUE ) where my only option was to pray. I use to fly a lot in my job and it was 50/50 with JetBlue and South-West. Never ever an incident. I prefer JetBlue because of the added legroom. > [@Clueless33](#): > > I was confused because I thought planes could land by themselves. Depends on where. Some airports - it’s very difficult. Flew into Santiago Chile a few times and more than once we had to land in Argentina due to fog through the Andes. You fly through a mountain pass with very high snow covered peaks on both sides of plane. ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/45 "2024-04-13T15:41:27Z")
Years ago, I was Denver’s Smoke Gestapo. One leaving their vehicle idling unattended could be cited for air pollution and enabling a criminal to steal the vehicle. Called “Puffing”. A wimp college student down our residential street started his engine to warm up his car. Two criminals driving by saw the exhaust emission. Woman got out, entered the vehicle and drove by our house up the street. Seems more uncomfortable to put on warm coat, go outside in the freezing air, get into the cold car and start it, get out into the cold air again and walk back to the house. Being a registered tree-hugger and Greenie, I start the engine, idle 10 seconds, place in gear and allow the car to move in Idle - no throttle - to the end of our street. After our STOP sign, I gently accelerate. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/47 "2024-04-13T23:56:55Z")
Once again Lord Thunder is claiming knowlege over the rest of the world. The term ( Puffing ) does refer to an unattended vehicle with the engine running. In Tulsa , Oklahoma you can get a citation for that . ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/48 "2024-04-14T00:15:40Z")
> [@LoudThunder](#): > > > [@Robert-Gift](#): > > > > “Years ago, I was Denver’s Smoke Gestapo.” > > > [@Robert-Gift](#): > > > > “Called “Puffing”…” > > _You are Wrong…, “Puffing” is the practice of making exaggerated commendations especially for promotional purposes._ > > _You should watch more “Judge Judy” and you might get your story straight… Idling your vehicle with the engine running is called “Standing” legally speaking…_ > > _Examples of “Puffing” include ‘this car was only driven on Sunday to Church by a little old lady…’_ > _Or the more sinister type of “Puffing”_ > > _Where someone brags about driving their car at 130 MPH, risking their life, the lives of anyone who happens to be in the vicinity if they lose control of their vehicle, and the lives or the people who are in need of the Blood Products being transported… but were never delivered because the “medi-uber driver” blew the engine of their vehicle, a tire failed because of road debris or a panic stop for a stopped school bus caused them to lose control and they wound up in a ditch…_ > > _And I am curious, where are you “registered” as a tree hugger? I did not know there was a registry. Is it like a wedding registry where you can by a tree for a National Forrest? Inquiring Minds Want to Know…_ > > > [@Robert-Gift](#): > > > > “I gently accelerate …” > > _And when you say, you “gently accelerate” do you gently accelerate up to 130 MPH…_ > _So many questions, so few answers…_ Called “puffing” here when the vehicle is warming or cooling unoccupied. As a Registered Tree-hugger and Greenie, I have always gently accelerated to create less air pollution and minimize fuel consumption. Also easier on the engine and mechanic parts and tires. **130 mph all alone** , unlike the Kansas Farmers in their Excursions on Interstate highways. (Apparently they have radar detectors.) In 35 years **failed one time** because the southbound Interstate was closed due to vehicles stuck in deep snow blocking snow plows. Then they managed to get northbound open. State patrol held all traffic on the northbound on-ramps because they sent me southbound in the northbound lanes. (I would have told drivers stay in the right lane until passing an emergencyehicle heading south staying to his right.) Finally I saw where the southbound lanes were clear enough and used a police crossover to get to the southbound lanes. Called state patrol so that they could let everyone go. It’s the Greenie thing to do. (Upon arrival, blood bank personnel were surprised and pleased because they heard the Interstate was closed.) ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/49 "2024-04-14T03:01:09Z")
> [@LoudThunder](#): > > You are Wrong…, “Puffing” is the practice of making exaggerated commendations especially for promotional purposes. Never heard of that. You’re referring to “puffery”, not “puffing”. ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/50 "2024-04-14T03:13:04Z")
I think that either term (puffery or puffing) can refer to “exaggerated commendations.” I’m pretty sure it also describes excessive idling. So everyone is right, except if calling others wrong. Versatile term. Personally, I hear about puffing and it just reminds me of a song… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/5/151dc556f4b1c68c2cf2dd15391219ee44417d1e.jpeg "Green Jelly - Three Little Pigs (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtffv9bpB-U) ---
**Author:** ![LoudThunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/loudthunder/32/27769_2.png) [@LoudThunder](https://community.cartalk.com/u/LoudThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 9:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/51 "2024-04-14T09:00:53Z")
> [@texases](#): > > Never heard of that. You’re referring to “puffery”, not “puffing”. > [@cigroller](#): > > ” I’m pretty sure it also describes excessive idling. ![puff](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/f/3/f3cea9692c6317ce9a0f60d33d0224bc4d4980ec.jpeg) > **[Puffing Business Law | UpCounsel 2024](https://www.upcounsel.com/puffing-business-law)** > > Puffing business law refers to the act of exaggerating in order to sell a service or product and the legal ramifications involved. ---
**Author:** ![sheridanpaul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@sheridanpaul](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sheridanpaul)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/52 "2024-04-14T13:20:01Z")
You mean like Speed Limits? I wish there was more enforcement of those laws! (even if I “sometimes” break these myself…) ---
**Author:** ![sheridanpaul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@sheridanpaul](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sheridanpaul)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/53 "2024-04-14T13:33:58Z")
Yep, I carried two wallets in the city. One was a “hand it over.” The other had more cash and important cards. The “hand it over” one was always the more accessible and on my person, the other was in the bottom of my backpack with my photo gear, beneath my gym clothes . Never had to “hand it over,” but know people who did. Boy Scouts --be prepared. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/54 "2024-04-14T13:35:02Z")
Clearly you’ve never driven highways in Ohio on holiday weekend in a red sports car… You could cook a hot dog threaded on the antenna from all the microwaves! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![sheridanpaul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@sheridanpaul](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sheridanpaul)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/55 "2024-04-14T13:43:55Z")
Don’t forget the alligators that crawl out of the sewers… Oh wait, that is is Florida… ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/56 "2024-04-14T13:48:33Z")
Florida gators don’t use sewers, they prefer swimming pools. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/57 "2024-04-14T13:49:29Z")
> [@sheridanpaul](#): > > alligators that crawl out of the sewers… Like THIS?? He didn’t crawl out, though… > **[11-foot alligator pulled from Fort Myers drain](https://www.news-press.com/story/news/2016/06/14/11-foot-alligator-pulled-fort-myers-drain/85854510/)** > > Betsy Clayton, public information officer for Lee County, said a call from the Lee County Sheriff's Office on Monday alerted the department of transportation to a bad odor coming from a catch basin in the Whiskey Creek community. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/58 "2024-04-14T14:13:25Z")
> [@sheridanpaul](#): > > Yep, I carried two wallets in the city. > One was a “hand it over.” > The other had more cash and important cards. > The “hand it over” one was always the more accessible and on my person Yup! In my younger days–when crime rates were far higher–I used to frequent Manhattan, even in the wee hours of the morning. In addition to my “real” wallet, I carried a cheapo one that contained a few bucks, as well as two expired credit cards. A thief who is handed two credit cards is not going to check the expiration date, especially in dim lighting. Luckily–like you–I never had to hand it over, but I was prepared, just in case I was mugged. ---
**Author:** ![Clueless33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Clueless33](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Clueless33)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/59 "2024-04-14T17:01:22Z")
> [@sheridanpaul](#): > > You mean like Speed Limits? > > I wish there was more enforcement of those laws! > > (even if I “sometimes” break these myself…) The United States has beautiful and safe roads. I’m concerned why you’d want more enforcement of these laws. The speed limits for these beautifully designed roads are already set at a very low and annoying speed rate where it almost feels like one isn’t moving along the way. Take for example Taconic park way. The posted speed limit on there is just 55mph and it’s a highway. One driving the speed limit on that highway is incredibly daunting. I don’t even know why they called it a highway in the first place. It should have been named low way. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/60 "2024-04-14T17:43:57Z")
> [@Clueless33](#): > > Take for example Taconic park way. The posted speed limit on there is just 55mph and it’s a highway. No , it is not a Highway. Apparently it also has a high accident record. It is a Scenic drive just like The Natchez parkway and meant for enjoyment . Stop living up to your screen name. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700/61 "2024-04-14T17:54:03Z")
> [@Clueless33](#): > > > [@sheridanpaul](#): > > > > You mean like Speed Limits? > > > > I wish there was more enforcement of those laws! > > > > (even if I “sometimes” break these myself…) > > The United States has beautiful and safe roads. I’m concerned why you’d want more enforcement of these laws. Speeding is a frequent problem in my area, and I don’t think this is a unique to the southwest. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/7/1/7179c63881820fcb0f0fdd464092f0c939eaff3f.jpeg) > [@Clueless33](#): > > Take for example Taconic park way. The posted speed limit on there is just 55mph and it’s a highway. A parkway is not an interstate highway. The Taconic Parkway has crossroads, curves, hills, limited visibility, wildlife etc. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/breaking-this-new-york-city-law-could-cost-you-up-to-2k-in-just-3-minutes/194700.md?page=4)