# Brakes dont work good

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** cutlass, oldsmobile\
**Created:** [June 20, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036 "2020-06-20T07:51:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/42 "2020-06-23T18:59:12Z")

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I think we need @WheresRick with his “ode to the humble drum brake”

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**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/43 "2020-06-23T19:15:25Z")

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> [@puppykicker](#):
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> As far as I can tell, cars were better built and better looking when they only had mechanical brakes

And the early ones had headlights that worked off a magneto such that a lighted match gave more light to see by when going up a hill. And wooden floorboards that didn’t rust! Yep, yep, they just don’t build 'em like they used to anymore. 😉🙃

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/44 "2020-06-23T19:25:00Z")

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Marnet- you never ceases to amaze me! How’d you know about Magneto’s?

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/45 "2020-06-23T19:26:01Z")

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> [@Tex-Rebel](#):
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> – guys this is a simple question asked not a **dam** debate about what cars are or was. The engine size and tranny **dose** not make a bit of difference here.  
> I hope this helps you out here **fist** step when you replace the master cylinder you should at least flush out the entire system with fresh fluid; But anyways starting off from where you are now.  
> a.) Your power booster probably isn’t bad (but at its age you might think of replacing it) when a **mater** cylinder leaks fluid from the rear of it the fluid builds up inside the booster and when brakes are applied the fluid get sucked into the intake. This can foul out your plugs making/causing your miss fire (note: you will usually see a crap ton of smoke from your exhaust when this happens).  
> b.) When the new brake line was replaced the inner diameter is most likely smaller than the the originals inner diameter being the car was built almost 50 years ago have the mechanic replace the other line to its ajoinning side (front to front-rear to rear) reason is this can cause a **breaking** issue where one side receives more brake fluid than the other giving one side more braking action than the other side  
> c.) rule is when you replace one item on your brake system you replace both at the same time IE pads, shoes, wheel cylinder, callipers, rubber lines.  
> Well I hope this helps you out with your **break** issues and remember no matter how fast it goes! When its time to stop, it needs to STOP then

Just doing a friend a favor by high lighting some of the words your spell check missed.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/46 "2020-06-23T19:39:26Z")

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Read the OPs responses, he doesn’t want to fix his hydraulic brakes.  
He wants to convert them to mechanic brakes, last used on an American car in 1939.

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**Author:** ![Tex-Rebel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tex-rebel/32/21403_2.png) [@Tex-Rebel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tex-Rebel)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/47 "2020-06-23T19:43:44Z")

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the poster specificaly asked could my power booster be the problem here there is nothen mentioned about converting the breaks to mecanical fom the origanal poster that i can see so there for that subject that that person is refering to needs to start his own thread not hijack puppykickers

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/48 "2020-06-23T19:46:06Z")

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Then search for a 1939 or older Ford, even then I think you will be hard pressed to find one that has not been converted to hydraulic.

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/49 "2020-06-23T19:51:57Z")

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> [@Renegade](#):
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> As I said before I still smell troll.

I think the Troll has attracted another Troll and now have 2 on this thread .  
@cdaquila Sending Bat Signal for our esteemed Moderator.

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**Author:** ![Tex-Rebel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tex-rebel/32/21403_2.png) [@Tex-Rebel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tex-Rebel)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/50 "2020-06-23T19:52:18Z")

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yeah i gusses if he really wanted to go to a cable setup he might beable to adapted one of the rear disk brake acuratores to the front and maybe install a cable system to a hand brake but it would not pass any safty inspection to be allowed on the road with out a foot brake with out an operating brake light setup

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**Author:** ![Tex-Rebel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tex-rebel/32/21403_2.png) [@Tex-Rebel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tex-Rebel)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/51 "2020-06-23T19:55:18Z")

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im a mechanic not an english or grammer professor but thanks anyways

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/52 "2020-06-23T19:55:35Z")

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> [@Tex-Rebel](#):
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> there is nothen mentioned about converting the breaks to mecanical

😆

> [@puppykicker](#):
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> I would be happy with cable operated brakes.  
> Anything is better than hydraulic

👍👍👍

> [@Tex-Rebel](#):
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> What the hell dose

I respectfully suggest that you reduce your dosage.  
🤔

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**Author:** ![Tex-Rebel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tex-rebel/32/21403_2.png) [@Tex-Rebel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tex-Rebel)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/53 "2020-06-23T19:59:12Z")

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i dont go through all the replies i read the first one where the person is asking for help or info i glance over a few strolling down to the reply button but the way people carry on hell i would just assume to go cable as to figering out all of yas bs answers

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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/54 "2020-06-23T19:59:32Z")

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I think you are right just hope they don’t breed.

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**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/56 "2020-06-23T21:06:45Z")

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> [@old\_mopar\_guy](#):
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> Marnet- you never ceases to amaze me! How’d you know about Magneto’s?

I heard stories from my late dad about the cars his father had back in the 1920s. 😁

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/57 "2020-06-24T00:36:56Z")

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> [@texases](#):
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> Make that 50 year old.

Yikes. I misread that. In that case, it might be worth paying the dough to get a new brake system.

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**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/58 "2020-06-24T00:40:03Z")

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> [@Purebred](#):
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> Read the OPs responses, he doesn’t want to fix his hydraulic brakes.  
> He wants to convert them to mechanic brakes, last used on an American car in 1939.

The 1969 Dodge Dart I learned to drive on had manual brakes. Are you telling me they were hydraulic non-power brakes? I always assumed they were cable-activated, like a parking brake.

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/59 "2020-06-24T00:48:33Z")

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All brakes on all major makes since 1939 are hydraulic.

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**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 5:00am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/60 "2020-06-24T05:00:40Z")

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> [@Whitey](#):
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> The 1969 Dodge Dart I learned to drive on had manual brakes. Are you telling me they were hydraulic non-power brakes? I always assumed they were cable-activated, like a parking brake.

??? No…really??? There hasn’t been a mass produced car without a hydraulic brake system in 80 years! The 69 Dart even had a dual circuit system so if a wheel cylinder failed you would only lose half the system.

If you ever drove a car with cable brakes you would know it. They were horrible.

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**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 10:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/61 "2020-06-24T10:46:33Z")

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My 69 vette has OEM 4 wheel disc brakes. They are manual- no power booster.

That car even has OE fiber optic cables in it to transmit light from stop and turn signal lamps to lenses in the center console.

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/brakes-dont-work-good/166036/62 "2020-06-24T16:46:41Z")

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They were hydraulic, with no power boost.

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