# Bonneville electrical ISSUES

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [April 11, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997 "2009-04-11T19:24:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/1 "2009-04-11T19:24:59Z")

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Turn signals…imagine that. Left side marker will not flash sometimes and if I plug in the NEW bulb I can see that it is only burning at a minimum where you couldn’t tell it was on unless you were looking for it (but not flashing). My hazards work fine…except my front left turn signal indicator does NOT work (it work when flashers are not on). I can see a faint left turn signal indicator light on my dash lit up. Also, I don’t believe this is related, but who knows?? I have had my interior lights stay on while driving. The only way I can seem to get them off is to lock the car with my remote.

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/2 "2009-04-11T19:28:07Z")

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Oh, yeah… sometimes the widows do not work…almost like there is not enough power to close them.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/3 "2009-04-11T21:27:09Z")

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What model year?

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/4 "2009-04-11T21:58:11Z")

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**Author:** ![Cougar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cougar/32/21348_2.png) [@Cougar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cougar)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/5 "2009-04-11T23:30:49Z")

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You might try replacing the flasher unit to see if that will correct the turn signal problem.

The interior light trouble is most likely due to a bad switch connection in one of the doors or possibly the light switch courtesy light switch connection is shorted.

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/6 "2009-04-12T16:19:33Z")

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Flasher is fine, connector is fine, wires seem to be okay (I didn’t notice any frayed or damaged wires…even shook the wires). Flasher will make bulb work, but not the turn signal.

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**Author:** ![Cougar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cougar/32/21348_2.png) [@Cougar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cougar)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/7 "2009-04-12T18:16:30Z")

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If you are sure the flasher unit is good then the trouble is most likely in the turn signal switch.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/8 "2009-04-13T00:05:24Z")

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That is probably a different issue. Are they the original motors and regulators?

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/9 "2009-04-13T00:07:31Z")

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This is an inexpensive fix if it works. You can get them on line for less than $50.00.

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**Author:** ![Cougar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cougar/32/21348_2.png) [@Cougar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cougar)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/10 "2009-04-13T01:23:03Z")

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Looking at some service data for this it looks like all the switching is in what is called the Hazard/Turn switch. You might be able to clean some contacts in it if you can get inside it. The trouble is most likely inside it anyways and repairing or replacing it should fix the trouble.

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/11 "2009-04-13T01:30:43Z")

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I have already started taking the steering column apart. Is there any precautions I should be aware of when taking this apart?

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/12 "2009-04-13T15:49:57Z")

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Call me a redneck…but I don’t know if I have the time to take the entire steering column apart. Has anyone every tried to cut the wires, pull them through and them reattach them after the column or is there something else in the column that I have to mess with. (I already have the multi switch unscrewed)

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**Author:** ![Cougar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cougar/32/21348_2.png) [@Cougar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cougar)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/13 "2009-04-13T17:07:57Z")

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Isn’t there a plug connected to the switch that you can pull off to disconnect it?

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/14 "2009-04-13T17:14:59Z")

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I believe that yo are talking about the plug that goes into the wiring harness, not he multi switch. The multiswitch only has wires going to it and then the wires are connected to the contacts and then, under the dash…it goes into a wiring harness. Something that has me perplexed. I looked at the switch which is VERY simple. I took it apart cleaned the contacts and greased them again and reassembled, but I am still having the same problem. Right side works…not the left, but the contacts look exactly the same…in great condition.

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**Author:** ![oldschool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19adc/32.png) [@oldschool](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldschool)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/15 "2009-04-13T23:39:39Z")

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Have you already bought your new switch? If yes you can connect the harness as a test without doing anything yet to the steering column

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/16 "2009-04-14T00:52:37Z")

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Well, if I do that and it isn’t the multi switch, I still can’t return it because it is an electrical componet. I still might do that even though I can’t return it. (Side note… I haven’t looked REALLY hard at the harness, but how do I unhook the connector?.. it is a little difficult to get to)

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**Author:** ![oldschool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19adc/32.png) [@oldschool](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldschool)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/17 "2009-04-14T01:28:31Z")

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Unhooking the harness is the easy part of the job. what are you going to do about getting the air bag, steering wheel, lock plate off? A good tech can do that job (T/S switch in 45min.)

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**Author:** ![Cougar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cougar/32/21348_2.png) [@Cougar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cougar)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/18 "2009-04-14T03:17:55Z")

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Ok I see you have the switch out. We can verify that the switch is ok by checking for power on the lite blue and yellow wires with the left turn signal on. If you have good voltage on those wires the switch is good and you can put that back together.

After looking at some service data again I see there is a model that has a Adaptive Lamp Module and one without it. Do you know if your model has this module?

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**Author:** ![justtrying](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@justtrying](https://community.cartalk.com/u/justtrying)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/19 "2009-04-14T18:50:23Z")

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I am not sure if it has the module. I have a “K” and not a “1” on my VIN, if that tells anything. I am going to check for a ground wire. Is there a ground specifically for the left signal, if so, where is it located?

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**Author:** ![Cougar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cougar/32/21348_2.png) [@Cougar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cougar)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bonneville-electrical-issues/28997/20 "2009-04-14T19:09:31Z")

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Yes, the grounding for the turn signals should be tied to the chassis near the lights. Please verify that the wires I mentioned in my last post are getting 12 volts when the left turn signal is selected, this is important.

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