# Bogus puzzler answer 3/26 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Show\ **Created:** [March 26, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024 "2011-03-26T18:29:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jmmahony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc348/32.png) [@jmmahony](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jmmahony)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/1 "2011-03-26T18:29:05Z")
According to the latest results from Copernicus, the sun does not move, and a sundial has 1 moving part, not zero. ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/2 "2011-03-26T18:38:02Z")
I’ll Bite. I Have A Sun Dial. Which Immovable Sun Dial Part Moves ? The Planet ? CSA ---
**Author:** ![euryale1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@euryale1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/euryale1)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/3 "2011-03-26T18:46:15Z")
Actually the sun does move in space. It is the apparent motion between the sun and the earth that makes the sun dial work. And if you really want to be technical about the earth then every time you drive a car you violate the speed limit by about a thousand miles per hour. Wow thats a BIG ticket. ---
**Author:** ![jmmahony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc348/32.png) [@jmmahony](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jmmahony)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/4 "2011-03-26T19:03:49Z")
Right. But that’s an even more recent result than Copernicus, and I didn’t want to confuse the brothers _too_ much 😉 Your speeding ticket would be for about 67,000 mph orbital speed, +/- up to about 1000 mph rotational speed, depending on where you are on the planet. The rotation of the earth (and the sundial) is the relevant motion that makes the sundial work. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/5 "2011-03-26T19:30:32Z")
“Moving” is relative to me, so zero moving parts. ---
**Author:** ![euryale1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@euryale1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/euryale1)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/6 "2011-03-26T19:31:54Z")
Going so fast its amazing that the cops ever catchup to write the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![jmmahony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc348/32.png) [@jmmahony](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jmmahony)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/7 "2011-03-26T19:35:19Z")
And just for fun, the speed of our whole solar system around the center of our galaxy is roughly 500,000 mph. ---
**Author:** ![MarcPetitpierre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MarcPetitpierre](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MarcPetitpierre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/8 "2011-03-26T19:52:08Z")
Yeah, right… The Sun revolves (moves) around the (Earth, and the immovable)sundial… Copernicus was so wrong… ---
**Author:** ![MarcPetitpierre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MarcPetitpierre](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MarcPetitpierre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/9 "2011-03-26T19:55:10Z")
Yeah, right… The Sun revolves (moves) around the (Earth, and the immovable)sundial… Copernicus was so wrong… If it’s relative to you, then you must be the center of the universe, or, at least, our solar system. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/10 "2011-03-26T19:59:47Z")
I am the center, didn’t you know? So a rock sitting on the ground has one moving part? Not in my book. ---
**Author:** ![impala61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@impala61](https://community.cartalk.com/u/impala61)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/11 "2011-03-26T20:02:35Z")
Dude, that’s like saying a rock has one moving part (let the record show that Texases got there first). I found this puzzler pretty easy but unsatisfying. I haven’t listened to the solution yet, but assuming that the other invention is the clock, clocks generally don’t have “thousands” of moving parts. [http://www.metrolyrics.com/still-is-still-moving-to-me-lyrics-willie-nelson.html](http://www.metrolyrics.com/still-is-still-moving-to-me-lyrics-willie-nelson.html) ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/12 "2011-03-26T20:06:16Z")
I thought ‘clock’, too, but that’s not it. Think older, and thousands is right! ---
**Author:** ![MarcPetitpierre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MarcPetitpierre](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MarcPetitpierre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/13 "2011-03-26T20:08:15Z")
everything moves, even you… ---
**Author:** ![MarcPetitpierre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MarcPetitpierre](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MarcPetitpierre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/14 "2011-03-26T20:16:06Z")
Actually, a sundial has TWO moving parts – the dial face (which receives the shadow) and the gnomon ( which casts it). ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/15 "2011-03-26T20:18:23Z")
Thank you for officially jumping off the deep end. If it’s cast as one part, does it still count as two? What about the screw the holds the gnomon on the face? The paint? ---
**Author:** ![MarcPetitpierre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MarcPetitpierre](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MarcPetitpierre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/16 "2011-03-26T20:30:34Z")
OK, sundails – like hourglasses – have “thousands” of moving parts. Even as you do, except for when you’re the center of the universe like you say… ---
**Author:** ![impala61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@impala61](https://community.cartalk.com/u/impala61)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/17 "2011-03-26T20:30:41Z")
Okay, I just listened to the solution. When I first heard the puzzler, i took it as one being older and one being newer. My bad. BUT, the sundial is a clock, and the other is a timer. A standard length of burning rope would be an equally good answer. Tell me those parts don’t move. Okay, where are they? “measures the passage of time”? Slippery, but now that I’ve thought about it, a pretty good puzzler. ---
**Author:** ![impala61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@impala61](https://community.cartalk.com/u/impala61)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/18 "2011-03-26T21:09:19Z")
Wow. I’m just going to sit back and watch this play out. My input is not required. ---
**Author:** ![waterboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/waterboy/32/764_2.png) [@waterboy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/waterboy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/19 "2011-03-26T21:39:33Z")
You sir are technically correct, the earth is the moving piece in the operation of a sun dial, but technically also the sun dial itself has no moving parts. Where do we draw the line? Conundrum for the grey(gray) matter. Way to think about all aspects of the puzzler, pat on the back for you. My blinders re 1 moving part are now removed, I love it! ---
**Author:** ![skomjathy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@skomjathy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/skomjathy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024/20 "2011-03-26T21:56:14Z")
Ooh! Ooh! What about atoms? What about atoms? If atoms count, the average sundial must beat the hourglass for moving parts. What about atoms? [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bogus-puzzler-answer-3-26/63024.md?page=2)