# Best H-13 headlight capsule for 2008 Expedition to reveal deer, elk? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 23, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708 "2012-07-23T17:10:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/1 "2012-07-23T17:10:04Z")
Mountain hospitals have been increasingly calling for STAT bloodeliveries in the middle of the night. Due to deer and elk I drive more slowly but still get surprised by large animals near the roadways. Any suggestions for brighter headlight capsules? Interestingly, all are 65/55 Watts. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Marc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Big\_Marc](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Big_Marc)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/2 "2012-07-23T18:21:52Z")
there is a legal limet on the wattage of a headlight bulb. but you can change the color of the bulb or the temp. of the bulb. I agree with you about slowing down at night it is harder to see at night and its not in till your on top iof an animal that you see them. I would vist one of the better mobil electronics stores in your area talk with them about your choices for improven your lighting. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/3 "2012-07-23T18:27:30Z")
For the stock headlights there’s not a lot you can do, I’d put in a set of Silverstar bulbs and make sure they’re aimed correctly. Your needs might be better met with a set of extra driving lights, if they’re legal where you live. But you’ll have to be VERY careful to no blind oncoming cars. ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/4 "2012-07-23T18:59:24Z")
Thank you. When oncoming traffic I switch to low beams If extra driving lights, I could switch them off - maybe connect them through a relay to the highbeam circuit so they can be controlled from the steering post switch. Wish that I could mount a pair of H4651 high beam headlights to the grill. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/5 "2012-07-23T19:07:42Z")
Find one of these to mount into your vehicle (or similar technology) - [http://www.vxm.com/Impact.cadillac.nitevision.html](http://www.vxm.com/Impact.cadillac.nitevision.html) No need for brighter headlamps, use night vision technology… ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/6 "2012-07-23T19:13:52Z")
I do worry that better lights will cause a collision - these critters bound onto the highway without warning, and you might drive faster with better lights, but you won’t see them until it’s too late. ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/7 "2012-07-24T04:54:51Z")
> _I do worry that better lights will cause a collision - these critters bound onto the highway without warning, and you might drive faster with better lights, but you won't see them until it's too late._ Good point! Yes. As a worst-case-scenario guy, I always consider getting over-confident so don't let that happen. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/8 "2012-07-24T11:54:30Z")
Boy I hear you. I would second the silver star as about the best you can do without mounting a separate set of sealed beams for the fog lamps. But HID are really what you need. The first I had them on our 08, I couldn’t believe the difference. Coming back from South Dakota one night, I counted 23 deer close to or on the road on one stretch and I could see them all way ahead of time. There just is no comparison to HID lights but you’ll have to trade cars to get them. ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/9 "2012-07-24T13:05:42Z")
Thank you. On [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) I requested Sylvania H13 (9008) SilverStar Ultra High Performance Halogen Headlight - Pack of 2 $35.99 Hate to spend the money, but if increased safety it may be worth it. ---
**Author:** ![ken\_green](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/ken_green/32/816_2.png) [@ken\_green](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ken_green)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/10 "2012-07-24T18:43:43Z")
A roof rack with KC HiLites aimed ‘‘out there’’ will light up the night…BUT… as the others have said… ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/11 "2012-07-24T20:22:45Z")
> _A roof rack with KC HiLites aimed ''out there'' will light up the night...BUT... as the others have said..._ The light bar is in the way. Maybe I should install Unity post mount spotlights. [Scratch that idea. These spotlights are a fortune.] How can such a spotlight be worth $860 ? [http://shop.unityusa.com/search.asp?keyword=96035](http://shop.unityusa.com/search.asp?keyword=96035) ---
**Author:** ![ken\_green](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/ken_green/32/816_2.png) [@ken\_green](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ken_green)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/12 "2012-07-25T02:11:41Z")
Mount the KC HiLiters on a push/brush guard in front. All the police and sherriff Expeditions around here have the push guards and there’s mounting space therein for two. A Sherriff’s unit in the shop today has an emergency light bar on the roof that only sits four inches tall at the rain gutters, three inches in the roof center . An off road light bar would stand taller than that ( in front of or behind ) allowing full vision of the emergency lights. ---
**Author:** ![Robert-Gift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/robert-gift/32/356_2.png) [@Robert-Gift](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert-Gift)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/best-h-13-headlight-capsule-for-2008-expedition-to-reveal-deer-elk/73708/13 "2012-07-25T03:30:43Z")
A Streethawk light bar spans the roof rack rails - so no damage to the roof from mounting legs. I’m already complaining abouthe $36. Push guards are too expen$ive and too heavy - ruin fuel economy. Also avoiding looking like law enforcement.