# Bad news for a lot of Jaguar-Land Rover employees

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 10, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403 "2019-01-10T21:23:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/1 "2019-01-10T21:23:26Z")

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> **[Jaguar Land Rover Cuts 4,500 Jobs in Plans to Ditch Diesel for More EVs](https://jalopnik.com/jaguar-land-rover-cuts-4-500-jobs-in-plans-to-ditch-die-1831647057)**
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> Jaguar Land Rover’s profitability took a nose dive at the end of 2018, and now the company has announced it’s cutting 4,500 of its staff and fast-tracking plans to introduce more electrified models as diesel sales drop.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/2 "2019-01-10T22:29:28Z")

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Well the good news is that the electrics will have less oil to drip on the floor.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/3 "2019-01-10T22:32:42Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> cutting 4,500 of its staff and fast-tracking plans to introduce more electrified models as diesel sales drop

That makes no sense at all. You don’t reduce workforce to rush to introduce MORE technology you don’t already have. It takes staff to design and develop that new technology.

You DO reduce the workforce when your sales have slumped to the point you no longer need them to build the cars no one is buying.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/4 "2019-01-10T22:39:48Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> That makes no sense at all. You don’t reduce workforce to rush to introduce MORE technology you don’t already have. It takes staff to design and develop that new technology.
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> You DO reduce the workforce when your sales have slumped to the point you no longer need them to build the cars no one is buying.

I agree, but if the Indian company (Tata) that owns Jaguar-Land Rover is trying to “save face”, I guess that they can **try** to get away with that type of “reasoning”. They probably think that it is better to try to sell that farce, rather than to be honest and admit that their flawed vehicles are not selling in sufficient numbers.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/5 "2019-01-10T22:42:59Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> think that it is better to try to sell that farce, rather than to be honest and admit that their flawed vehicles are not selling in sufficient numbers.

I agree… Tata isn’t the only company that makes those kind of “huh??” statements. GM did it as well when they announced their big layoffs. Corporate Speak to placate the masses of stockholders.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/6 "2019-01-10T22:49:01Z")

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> GM did it as well when they announced their big layoffs. Corporate Speak to placate the masses of stockholders

Are you telling us that the hierarchy in massive corporations can be… less than honest?  
I’m… shocked, just as Major Renault was “shocked”!

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/b/6/b6544780c36f6bb9f9be4e825e038feb71597207.jpeg "Casablanca gambling? I'm shocked!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME)

😆

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/7 "2019-01-10T22:53:14Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> Major Renault

As played by Carlos Ghosn… 😂

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/8 "2019-01-10T23:02:28Z")

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Jaguar/Land Rover made a big move into diesels, right as the rug was being pulled out from under the diesel market. Whoops!

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**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/9 "2019-01-10T23:12:35Z")

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Just because the corporatus are paid a lot of money doesn’t mean they are smart or have good instincts. Not to mention the Kmart/Sears merger again.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/bad-news-for-a-lot-of-jaguar-land-rover-employees/132403/10 "2019-01-11T00:36:34Z")

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Cut out diesel manufacturing and the cars, and it isn’t hard to imagine the JLR can get along with 4500 fewer employees. They might also decide to do more work outside the U.K. There will be no advantage in EU sales soon by manufacturing in the U.K.
