# ASE testing **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [March 28, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ase-testing/28406 "2009-03-28T13:30:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rocketman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@rocketman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/rocketman)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ase-testing/28406/1 "2009-03-28T13:30:19Z")
Tests and polls are designed by someone to reach a particular audience with some projected result. Like Bar exams . . . medical exams . . . realtor exams . . . CPA exams . . . presidential polls and the like. Some of the Doc’s my wife works with I wouldn’t let them have the television remote. Some Lawyers I know have never seen the inside of a courtroom . . . need I comment on the last series of Presidential polls? Many of the Prof’s I work with have never worked in business yet they “teach” students about business. Tests and polls, IMO, have a directed objective and may/may not be an effective tools to determine the ability of a particular person in a particular job. Rocketman ---
**Author:** ![rocketman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@rocketman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/rocketman)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ase-testing/28406/2 "2009-03-28T13:32:16Z")
Sorry . . I posted this as a response to “ASE Composite Vehicle”. Guess I can’t pretend to be a computer expert, huh? Rocketman ---
**Author:** ![oldschool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19adc/32.png) [@oldschool](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldschool)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ase-testing/28406/3 "2009-03-28T15:42:19Z")
Are you also against people recieving training? I posted the “composite vehicle” description to see how others rated it as as training tool and it got twisted a bit into a post reguarding the value of ASE certification. I taught myself the GM Tech 1 and 2. It supports areas other than driveability and the things I mainly used it for (BCM related issues,ABS related issues,Security System related issues) were pretty easy to self teach in as long as you had basic AC/DC and Digital electronics training. Driveability is a different arena and I have found that prepping for the ASE tests through their guides to be very effective and I found the concept of creating this “composite vehicle” for training purposes a creative way to present the technical aspects of OBD2 diagnostics, resolving emmision failures and driveability issues. ---
**Author:** ![rocketman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@rocketman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/rocketman)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ase-testing/28406/4 "2009-03-28T17:07:10Z")
Nope . . just re-read my post. I am merely stating that testing and polling are directed by the folks who make the test. And I didn’t criticize your composite vehicle nor your testing, since you didn’t raise a question I simply pointed out that many times testing and polling devices are self-directed toward and end . . . maybe even a better mechanic or student, as you are (trying?) to imply, I suppose. Rocketman ---
**Author:** ![oldschool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19adc/32.png) [@oldschool](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldschool)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/ase-testing/28406/5 "2009-03-28T18:24:22Z")
I fell very strongly that training and testing makes a better mechanic. Some types of training are better than others. My Community College program has a 3 credit hour 'engine performance" class I took it so I feel I can rate it. The knowledge I gained from prepping with the ASE test material was much more relevant and much more detailed. They really need to improve that class. I spoke with the Dean about the issue,my input was not appreciated. His answer was that the College expects the student to continue his training himself. When I do find material that is well done (like the ASE L1 Advanced Engine performance material) I like to just give a “heads up” that its out there.