# Arizonans vs. self-driving cars **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 31, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763 "2018-12-31T22:38:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RandomTroll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/randomtroll/32/12184_2.png) [@RandomTroll](https://community.cartalk.com/u/RandomTroll)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/1 "2018-12-31T22:38:31Z")
> **[Wielding Rocks and Knives, Arizonans Attack Self-Driving Cars](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/us/waymo-self-driving-cars-arizona-attacks.html)** > > Some residents have responded to Waymo’s autonomous vehicle project by slashing tires, pelting vans with rocks and even drawing a gun on a vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/2 "2018-12-31T23:23:29Z")
I was wondering when this sort of activity would begin. A car w/out a driver seems like it would quickly attract prankster’s and vandal’s attention. ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/3 "2019-01-01T00:19:13Z")
I believe that in the medium-term future, driverless cars will become common, rather than a novelty. Once that happens, a drop in the accident rate will be noted, and that the remaining accidents are caused mostly by conventional cars. At that point there will be great pressure placed upon state governments to require that all new cars sold be autonomous. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/4 "2019-01-01T06:28:57Z")
Well, they certainly can’t drive worse than what I see on the road now. Yesterday I exited the Thruway onto a ramp that entered a road that was 3 lanes in my direction. I put on my turn signal and changed to the center lane because the right land became a right turn only mall entrance. The light ahead of me was already red. A pickup that exited the thruway behind me floored it, cut to the left lane to pass me and swerved right across in front of me into the right turn lane and then went through the red light and cut left to go straight ahead of the car in front of me who had been sitting at the red light while this happened. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/5 "2019-01-01T13:38:41Z")
Sort of like cavemen attacking the inventor of fire… ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/6 "2019-01-01T15:59:19Z")
recall total recall movie with the johnny cab scene? now that there is good film making. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/7 "2019-01-01T19:08:13Z")
They did get one thing right though when they said they didn’t think the folks running the large corporations had the public’s best interest in mind. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Waterbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f07891/32.png) [@Waterbuff](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Waterbuff)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/8 "2019-01-02T00:22:31Z")
from another report: _In fact, police contact is reportedly kept to a minimum, with one incident not reported until four days after it took place. According to the NYT , Waymo in some cases is unwilling to provide footage of the attack. This defeats the benefit of self-driving vehicles always maintaining video of everything happening around the car._ the lack of transparency makes me suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![donnaeastman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@donnaeastman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/donnaeastman)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/9 "2019-01-02T08:34:23Z")
We’re gonna have to install weapons on these cars to give them a chance to retaliate gonna have to turn these cars into transformers Just kidding lol. Yes automated cars are surely a favorite target for pranksters unless we put dashcams all over the car and it might still not be enough. Companies have to find a way for this. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/10 "2019-01-02T15:55:20Z")
> [@donnaeastman](#): > > We’re gonna have to install weapons on these cars to give them a chance to retaliate gonna have to turn these cars into transformers They do. They’re called cameras. They can record for a few days. If the person can be identified on camera then they should be brought up on charges and sued for damages. ---
**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/11 "2019-01-03T11:03:12Z")
I can understand what would motivate an individual to attack these kinds of vehicles, but I don’t understand why they think it is OK to do so. ---
**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/12 "2019-01-03T15:22:02Z")
Arizonans- Keeping it classy since… well… -An Arizonan ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/13 "2019-01-03T16:00:40Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > A car w/out a driver seems like it would quickly attract prankster’s and vandal’s attention. Actually, these self-driving cars are required to have a person in them, which amps up the danger. ---
**Author:** ![eddo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/eddo/32/2594_2.png) [@eddo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/eddo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/14 "2019-01-03T22:18:00Z")
also Arizona from 2009: [https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/04/speed-camera-operator-is-shot-in-arizona/](https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/04/speed-camera-operator-is-shot-in-arizona/) Doesn’t make me proud… ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/15 "2019-01-04T19:11:32Z")
Embrace the chaos. _Florida Man_ is now my state’s unofficial mascot. > **[Florida Man](https://www.facebook.com/floridamanrocks/)** > > Florida Man. 16K likes. Florida Man is always in the news, biting off his girlfriend's thumb or running naked in a house and ripping a tv off a wall and then masturbating. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/16 "2019-01-04T19:22:53Z")
I can understand why some Arizonians would be upset with driverless cars since Uber killed a woman with one in that state. But the cave-ape reaction to things we don’t like has got to stop. Some mouth-breathing pickup truck idiots have been parking in Tesla charging spots and screaming obscenities at Tesla drivers when they try to charge. Same basic mentality. “I try to destroy anything I don’t like.” People like that should be locked in mental hospitals until they learn more rational approaches to things that upset them. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/17 "2019-01-04T19:31:54Z")
> [@shadowfax](#): > > People like that should be locked in mental hospitals You folks are a hoot. Read the news lately? We don’t have enough mental hospitals to hold them all. But wait until pot is legal everywhere. There will come a time when you can be arrested for possession of a plastic straw but not pot. What have we wrought?😁 ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/18 "2019-01-04T19:37:33Z")
> [@bing](#): > > We don’t have enough mental hospitals to hold them all. Build more. I know where we can get 5 billion dollars… > [@bing](#): > > But wait until pot is legal everywhere. Unlike alcohol, banning marijuana did not directly lead to fast and fun cars, so that initiative has been a gross disappointment and should be ended. > [@bing](#): > > What have we wrought? The free and responsible society we have falsely claimed to be for nearly 250 years? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/19 "2019-01-04T19:45:37Z")
> [@shadowfax](#): > > Build more. I know where we can get 5 billion dollars… Ha ha ha, but those are the folks that would be the first residents. You know the ones that think an island will tip over if you put too many people on one side. Maybe instead just contract with Venezuela, and send them there. They could use the money and they’ll blend right in. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763/20 "2019-01-04T19:50:15Z")
Yeah, this is Cartalk. You’re not going to suck me into a debate over whether racism is OK as long as you disguise it as national security. Let’s get back to cars. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/arizonans-vs-self-driving-cars/131763.md?page=2)