# Are Mini Coopers reliable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [March 24, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120 "2008-03-24T00:31:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cameron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@Cameron](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cameron)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/1 "2008-03-24T00:31:43Z")
My wife is interested in a used mini cooper, but I haven’t heard anything related to long-term reliability? ---
**Author:** ![mcparadise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mcparadise/32/32_2.png) [@mcparadise](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mcparadise)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/2 "2008-03-24T00:54:12Z")
The new Mini is a BMW product. They are as reliable, or not, as any other used car. It all depends on how the vehicle was cared for by the previous owner, or owners. You can get a good used Mini or a bad used Mini. My son bought a Cooper S with about 65K miles on it. He has been driving it for about six months without any major problems. Just remember, It’s a BMW. Expect to pay maintenance and repair costs accordingly. Consumer Reports rates the Mini, both the Cooper and Cooper S, as “average” as far as reliability goes. The '06 and '07 models rate slightly above average. Owning a Mini is not like owning a Civic or a Corolla. Expect to pay a bit more, but the Mini will be SO much more fun to drive. Perhaps the trade off will be worth it. PS Check the requirement for PREMIUM gasoline before you, or your wife, signs anything. Do you, or she, wish to spend the money for premium every time you fill up? You have to feed the Mini what it needs, and I’ll bet a used one NEEDS premium. To me, that’s a deal breaker. ---
**Author:** ![Cameron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@Cameron](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cameron)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/3 "2008-03-24T01:06:31Z")
What year was the one you bought for your son? We test drove a 2003 today that looks immaculate on the outside. Has 64,000 miles. Seems very well maintained, but we have a 96 Toyota RAV4 that has 130K that is fun to drive and inexpensive. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/4 "2008-03-24T01:24:12Z")
Is the Mini a replacement for the Rav4 or an addition? While the truck is 12 years old, it only has 130,000 miles on it. It’s your perogative to change any time you want; I’m just trying to get information to respond in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![fawadquazi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/fawadquazi/32/213_2.png) [@fawadquazi](https://community.cartalk.com/u/fawadquazi)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/5 "2008-03-24T01:49:24Z")
Look at the consumer reports. If you like a car enough you may compromise about a few shortcomings. Keep in mind that the repairs if needed will be expensive and you will have to use premium gas. In a stick shift car the condition of the clutch will depend greatly on the skill level of the previous owner. My advice indulge a little bit, as long as it will not break the bank. Life is too short, and many people are trying to make us feel guilty about our love for automobiles. ---
**Author:** ![steveng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@steveng](https://community.cartalk.com/u/steveng)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/6 "2008-03-24T17:19:19Z")
I have a Mini and they are very reiable. Consumer Reports rates the Mini well above average. I would stay away from any Mini with the cvt. 2007 they replaced it with a 6 speed auto. Mini’s are great on gas, yea it takes premium but a tank of gas last a very long time. ---
**Author:** ![toddwiener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@toddwiener](https://community.cartalk.com/u/toddwiener)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/7 "2008-07-03T17:56:49Z")
Regarding the premium gas, even though it’s recommended, I suspect like most modern vehicles it’s completely unnecessary. But maybe someone know more about this than me. I’ve been using 87 gas for years in my Minis find the mileage to be perfectly fine and it runs smoothly. ---
**Author:** ![crankwalk5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@crankwalk5](https://community.cartalk.com/u/crankwalk5)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/8 "2008-07-03T22:47:16Z")
Dunno,buy one and find out,you may get the BAD one then we would all be liars. if you get a good one, we would look like GODS,or something.LMAO! good luck ---
**Author:** ![bscar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bscar/32/34_2.png) [@bscar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bscar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/9 "2008-07-04T12:27:32Z")
Also, the good thing about the Mini is the size of the gas tank. The base model(new one) has a 10.6 gallon tank and the S model has a 13.2 gallon tank, so fill ups with premium are still likely to cost less than filling up the RAV4. ---
**Author:** ![mrbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@mrbean](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mrbean)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/10 "2008-07-04T13:08:55Z")
My '03 Mini has been very reliable. I have almost 90K miles on it now. It’s a great car. Personally, I would never use anything other than premium fuel regardless of price. These cars get good mileage and it’s not worth the potential risks just to save a couple bucks at the pump. There’s a really good article in the current issue of Road & Track (July '08) about buying a used Mini. It gives you all the strengths and weaknesses of these cars and all the things you should look for (good and bad) when choosing one to buy. ---
**Author:** ![sopwithcamel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@sopwithcamel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/sopwithcamel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/11 "2008-07-06T00:58:58Z")
I also have an '03 MINI. At one point I got disgusted with the price of premium gas and filled it with regular. I seemed to get a lot of hesitation and general gutlessness in return. In addition, I realized that I saved a measly $2.50 or so. That was my only experiment with regular gasoline. Other than that, it’s given me zero problems. ---
**Author:** ![Runr70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Runr70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Runr70)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/12 "2011-04-29T20:56:53Z")
In our experience Coopers are not reliable. The wife fell for a used '05 S with 56K in April 2010. We did a internet check-out on this car (Auto Check, CarFax and others). All the information we could find (even some items we had to pay for) made us think it was a good buy. And for six months it ran well. We started getting tranny errors codes in Dec. '10 (2C10 to be exact). The car would still run but it was sluggish. We took it to a independent shop that specializes in European brands. A shop which we had been working with for years and we were always delighted with their service. We had several instances with this 2C10 error. Most of the time the shop would clear the error, test it, drive it and release it back to us. Usually with a error data retrieval charge of $115 and and sometimes not. So after a few of the events they took a guess (an educated guess because they compared our MINI to two others) and replaced the shifter ($500). Well, that wasn’t a fix because we had two more 2C10 errors. Their next recommendation, a tranny swap for an estimated $4400-4800 additional outlay. So after a year of ownership we are looking at about $5000 bucks to keep it running right. Our Cooper S is a fun car to drive. MINIs have an enthusiast following. And even used MINIs command a high price. But for me I feel there are much better cars for the money that would provide nearly the same experience. So if you still have to have one these MINIs then make the extra effort to check out the car you are interested in. Check C.R. and True Delta and find model years that are holding up better. I have found out a lot about MINI transmissions you should avoid Standard MINIs with the CVTs. My Cooper S had the better transmission and it failed! All of the tranny shops I have consulted say the CVT equipped cars are lucky to get 90K. According to the MINI dealer CVTs are not in the newer models. ---
**Author:** ![Babak\_Mostafavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/babak_mostafavi/32/14947_2.png) [@Babak\_Mostafavi](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Babak_Mostafavi)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/13 "2019-02-13T02:37:59Z")
I purchased a 2014 Mini S double scroll turbo All4 in Nov 2018 and so far it’s been the best car I have ever owned. My previous car was a Toyota Prius, 2013 model year. It was dependable but I always had trouble making it up the hilly terrain of San Francisco area. This mini just zips along without sweating it. It is very fun to drive and so far, no issues but I am still learning how to operate it’s many hidden features. I’ll say go for it and buy one as life is short. Have fun. Mine had only 46000 miles on it and oil change intervals are every 10K miles using BMW 5w30 synthetic long life oil. So, I have 8000 miles to go ---
**Author:** ![Babak\_Mostafavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/babak_mostafavi/32/14947_2.png) [@Babak\_Mostafavi](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Babak_Mostafavi)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/14 "2019-02-13T02:45:31Z")
You are right about CVT tranny. We also own a 2012 Subaru outback and @ 135000 miles, we spent $3000 to swap the tranny’s control module and torque converter. CVT transmission is not perfected yet ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/15 "2019-02-13T04:05:52Z")
> [@Babak\_Mostafavi](#): > > I purchased a 2014 Mini S double scroll turbo All4 in Nov 2018 and so far it’s been the best car I have ever owned. Before going down that route suggest posters review the recent thread here about a Mini - S turbo and its oxygen sensors. May well be a fine and well designed car, but doesn’t seem very diy’er friendly. > [@Mini Cooper R56 P0137 code](https://community.cartalk.com/t/mini-cooper-r56-p0137-code/133048/43): > > They’re referred to as o2 sensors or oxygen sensors in the service data I’m looking at. I’m not sure if that means they really are the traditional narrow band sensor, or they are in fact the wideband air-fuel-ratio sensor. On the electrical schematic, the section where the power-train control circuit is shown is referred to as “lambda control”. By the looks of the circuit, the pre-cat sensor has 3 current outputs, labeled alsvr1 (GE) - Yellow alsvp1 (WS) - White ilsvp1 (GE) – Yell… ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/16 "2019-02-13T04:18:35Z")
Wow a lot of people I never saw before and others that we haven’t seen for years. I wonder why? But would I buy one? No. ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/17 "2019-02-13T04:19:11Z")
How did this 11 ear old thread show up in my “NEW” posts category ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bing/32/4619_2.png) [@bing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/18 "2019-02-13T04:21:26Z")
Oh, the algorithm probably thought you’d like to see it. I dunno. I got fooled too until I saw all the respoders. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/19 "2019-02-13T04:50:36Z")
That guy didn’t like the fuel economy so he replaced a lot of random parts that caused new problems, not everyone is a technician. Don’t let that guy work on your Mini or the shop mentioned above that charges $115 to erase fault codes and misdiagnose problems. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120/20 "2019-02-13T04:54:04Z")
If you own a mini-s, good idea to have a mini-s knowledgeable shop on your team. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/are-mini-coopers-reliable/12120.md?page=2)