# Another False Mileage Claim? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [May 26, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466 "2008-05-26T07:38:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gudenteit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/gudenteit/32/3004_2.png) [@gudenteit](https://community.cartalk.com/u/gudenteit)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/1 "2008-05-26T07:38:19Z")
I got an email about unheard of gas mileage with a pre engine catalytic converter. Here is the link for it. [http://www…atmileage/](http://www.preignitioncc.com/greatmileage/) This can’t be true? ---
**Author:** ![Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/joseph_e_meehan/32/21_2.png) [@Joseph\_E\_Meehan](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Joseph_E_Meehan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 10:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/2 "2008-05-26T10:24:10Z")
pre engine catalytic converter. This is nothing new. It has been around a while and is just coming back out now that the price of gas is up. Like all the others it is worthless. If you like do a search and you will see it has been debunked a number of times in the last few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![SteveF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/stevef/32/2_2.png) [@SteveF](https://community.cartalk.com/u/SteveF)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/3 "2008-05-26T11:52:02Z")
“Our scientific testing has led us to believe that the PICC will increase the mileage of all personal vehicles to over 100 miles per gallon (city or highway).” Thousands have tried it. Wishful thinking! Not a single driver has achieved improved results. Gudenteit, adjust your brain to make it good and tight. ---
**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/4 "2008-05-26T12:00:01Z")
Rather than wasting our time on this I suggest you either: 1: Use the forum’s search feature to read up on the extensive previous discussions. or 2: Go buy it, install it, then report back to this discussion group with your findings. ---
**Author:** ![bscar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bscar/32/34_2.png) [@bscar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bscar)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/5 "2008-05-26T13:21:31Z")
> Contact Us The contact information for your representative is shown below: Richard Waters 15 Pine St Lisbon Falls, ME 04252-1824 [jwawning@jwawning.com](mailto:jwawning@jwawning.com) Wow, only contact info is for a rep, not the actual company. If they stood behind their product, wouldn’t they put the contact info for the actual company instead of a rep for it? ---
**Author:** ![lprocter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/lprocter/32/40_2.png) [@lprocter](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lprocter)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/6 "2008-05-26T13:48:55Z")
This product is what I like to call a ??? ??? ???, ??? ???. You do know Russian, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![lenjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@lenjack](https://community.cartalk.com/u/lenjack)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/7 "2008-05-26T19:11:36Z")
I think I know the French equivalent. ---
**Author:** ![Amable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Amable](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Amable)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/8 "2008-06-28T17:22:05Z")
I see the appropriate amount of skepticism here. But I don’t see ANY scientific empirical rebuttal that this device will not work. Any takers out there? No, I’m no fool. But I can’t seem to find a single doubter who has first hand evidence that it WILL NOT work? Maybe that just means none of us are dumb enough [or smart enough?] to try it??? ---
**Author:** ![Roadrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Roadrunner](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Roadrunner)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/9 "2008-06-28T17:32:54Z")
I doubt you WILL see anyone post here with first hand evidence either. Scientific or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Amable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Amable](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Amable)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/10 "2008-06-28T17:35:14Z")
Why? ---
**Author:** ![SteveF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/stevef/32/2_2.png) [@SteveF](https://community.cartalk.com/u/SteveF)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/11 "2008-06-28T17:41:15Z")
You nailed it, Amable! Nobody is dumb enough to fall for a patently bogus device, one whose claims, if true, would defy the known laws of physics. Still skeptical? Think there may be a chance? Try it, let us know. Then you can go through all of the HHO generators, fuel reformulators, and tailpipe filters that will double your gas mileage and save the environment while whistling Dixie. When you finish with all of them there will be yet another crop of miracle devices and ointments for either fools or optimists to declare, “This time for sure!” ---
**Author:** ![bscar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bscar/32/34_2.png) [@bscar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bscar)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/12 "2008-06-28T18:21:30Z")
[http://www.preignitioncc.com/greatmileage/contactUs.htm](http://www.preignitioncc.com/greatmileage/contactUs.htm) > The contact information for your representative is shown below: Wings of Joy LLC PO Box 1673 Fernley, NV 89408 woj@wingsofjoy.info if the company doesn’t want to put it’s own info on it’s own website, it’s a definite SCAM ---
**Author:** ![oldschool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19adc/32.png) [@oldschool](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldschool)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/13 "2008-06-28T18:31:13Z")
Why do people believe it is Car Talks responsibility to prove or disprove these devices? You have been given a answer,thats more than you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![galaxybeing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@galaxybeing](https://community.cartalk.com/u/galaxybeing)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/another-false-mileage-claim/14466/14 "2008-06-28T21:10:46Z")
WHAT WEBSITE? GUDENTEIT MUST HAVE BEEN JUST TAHT WHEN HE PUT IT UP THERE.