# A fool and his vehicle

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 18, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965 "2022-10-18T14:19:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/1 "2022-10-18T14:19:34Z")

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… are soon parted.

The following appeared in my local PD’s Police Blotter today:  
_A resident reported their vehicle stolen during the overnight hours in the area of Garretson Dr. The unknown suspect(s) were able to gain entry **via an unlocked door where the keys were left inside**. The vehicle was valued at $52,000.00._

For several years, the news media have been reporting on thefts of unlocked cars, most of which had the key or key fob left inside the vehicle. And yet, some bone-headed people continue to engage in this lazy behavior.

🤨

**Edited to add:**  
Am I correct that one’s car insurance will refuse to reimburse a policyholder if his/her stolen car was left unlocked, and with the key/key fob inside?

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**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/2 "2022-10-18T14:21:30Z")

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If the police can be called and the vehicle can be remotely disabled a few miles down the road, it works out quite well!

A family with a 13 year old had their child or young man and a friend sneak out of a reform school and take a vehicle like this and drive quite a distance at night and in to the following day. They stole from stores along the way. They were caught and are in legal trouble. But that’s just because they seemed to not put any effort in to not getting caught.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/3 "2022-10-18T15:14:23Z")

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I think that very much depends on whether the insurance has that in the contract as an exclusion and whether or not the state’s insurance laws allow that.

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/4 "2022-10-18T17:12:27Z")

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Due to lack of details, it sounds like thief went into house to get car keys?

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/5 "2022-10-18T17:16:57Z")

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> [@Cavell](#):
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> Due to lack of details, it sounds like thief went into house to get car keys?

> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> The unknown suspect(s) were able to gain entry **via an unlocked door where the keys were left inside**

Unlocked CAR door, FOB in the car somewhere…

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/6 "2022-10-18T17:25:39Z")

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> [@TheWonderful90s](#):
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> If the police can be called and the vehicle can be remotely disabled a few miles down the road, it works out quite well!

Only if it is equipped with LoJack, OnStar, or something similar. And you get through to the police and/or the carrier quick enough. If you don’t notice for several hours who knows how far they’ll get. But the car will be dead somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/7 "2022-10-18T17:48:59Z")

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Yes. It’s says car door. Ur right.

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/8 "2022-10-18T17:58:18Z")

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> [@Cavell](#):
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> the car door was unlocked ? gasp. and car keys were inside car? dont say that

That is exactly what it says…

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**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/9 "2022-10-18T19:39:35Z")

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> [@Cavell](#):
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> the car keys were in the car and the car door was locked? how is thief getting in?

Slim Jim, or break a window, same as any other thief gets in a locked car

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**Author:** ![weekend-warrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/weekend-warrior/32/26122_2.png) [@weekend-warrior](https://community.cartalk.com/u/weekend-warrior)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/10 "2022-10-18T19:45:33Z")

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Now a days they have a scanner device that can unlock your doors and even start it without any keys.

[Thieves Using Key Fob Signals To Break Into, Steal Cars - Bing video](https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=car+theives+have+a+scanner+device+to+unlock+your+car+and+even+start+it&&view=detail&mid=C3DFE3F34C45AC5A24CDC3DFE3F34C45AC5A24CD&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcar%2Btheives%2Bhave%2Ba%2Bscanner%2Bdevice%2Bto%2Bunlock%2Byour%2Bcar%2Band%2Beven%2Bstart%2Bit%26FORM%3DHDRSC3)

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**Author:** ![ledhed75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f6c823/32.png) [@ledhed75](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ledhed75)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/11 "2022-10-18T21:00:12Z")

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I’ve heard many complaints in our neighborhood about vehicles being broken into at night, with guns and other valuables stolen.

Often times the cars are left unlocked with the valuables in plain sight, or at least available.

Of course, most of the time the garages are overflowing with…non-car related items…It seems rational to me to keep cars in the garage, but others may disagree…

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**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/12 "2022-10-18T21:15:04Z")

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Our neighborhood has 52 homes . Car hoppers found 17 unlocked vehicles . They got - 50 dollars out one - 3 company laptops with sensistive information - 3 guns - used the garage door opener and took 2 sets of golf clubs .

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/13 "2022-10-18T23:06:10Z")

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If you’re looking for a movie on this theme to watch, consider _The Bling Ring_

Based on a true story. It begins with a group of upper-class LA teenagers who break into parked cars to steal stuff they don’t even want. Just to see if they can do it. Nothing to it, at least one of the doors are nearly always unlocked. Later they extend this idea to breaking into celebrities houses. Not intending to steal anything, just to see if they can do it. Their method is simple enough. They watch the celebrity’s twitter feed to know when nobody’s home. As you might expect, eventually it all goes bad.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/14 "2022-10-19T13:44:50Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> Am I correct that one’s car insurance will refuse to reimburse a policyholder if his/her stolen car was left unlocked, and with the key/key fob inside?

What bonehead person would admit to that.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/15 "2022-10-19T14:20:06Z")

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> [@MikeInNH](#):
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> What bonehead person would admit to that.

Either he admitted it to the police, or they deduced it on their own, as it appears in their reports.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/16 "2022-10-19T14:21:47Z")

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> [@VDCdriver](#):
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> or they deduced it on their own, as it appears in their reports.

All the police could deduce was that the owners keys were used. There’s no way to determine if the keys were left in the car or they snuck in the home and stole them.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/17 "2022-10-19T14:24:47Z")

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Maybe the police talked to others in the area and found out about it from neighbors.

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/18 "2022-10-19T14:27:42Z")

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> [@jtsanders](#):
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> Maybe the police talked to others in the area and found out about it from neighbors.

They’d have to be a witness to the owner leaving the keys in the car. Maybe…but not likely. I surely don’t watch my neighbors that closely.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/19 "2022-10-19T14:47:05Z")

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We had a neighbor that watched EVERYTHING. It may have come up in conversations between neighbors too.

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/a-fool-and-his-vehicle/186965/20 "2022-10-19T15:03:49Z")

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> [@jtsanders](#):
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> We had a neighbor that watched EVERYTHING

If you have ever taken a look at the largely useless and frequently bizarre _Nextdoor_ website, that site provides ample evidence that there are a whole lot of Gladys Kravitz types out there, and they seem to watch (and complain about) almost everything that their neighbors do.

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