# 75 min for an oil change? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [July 20, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825 "2023-07-20T17:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/21 "2023-07-21T23:44:29Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > they’re working on a problem in their heads. While an engineering aide is working on the same problem in the lab. Tester ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/22 "2023-07-22T00:41:42Z")
> [@Tester](#): > > While an engineering aide is working on the same problem in the lab. Most problems these days are multidisciplinary and you need folks to device solutions and others to test them. Why two or more teams? Specialization makes for fewer mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 5:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/23 "2023-07-22T05:33:32Z")
I actually have my books in the Kindle app on my smartphone. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/24 "2023-07-22T13:35:10Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > I had a production manager come up to me years ago and tell me the production folks were all bent out of shape when they walked past engineering department to see people sitting there staring into space. He told them, when you see an engineer doing that, they’re working on a problem in their heads Most engineers I’ve worked with and who work for me, at times will stair into space thinking about solutions. But 99.999% of the time they’re working out solutions on paper/whiteboard or on the computer. They also AVERAGE 50+ hours a week on SALARY. I’ve found that engineers LOVE what they do and working really isn’t work to most of us. It’s therapy. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/25 "2023-07-22T17:42:27Z")
> [@asemaster](#): > > If he’s not actively working on something he’s wasting time and money. And a mechanic standing around twiddling his thumbs might also imply a shop that’s not well managed and/or not very profitable and successful A successful and well-managed shop should have more than enough work to keep everybody busy all day long, with enough left over for the next day(s), imo ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/26 "2023-07-22T21:59:57Z")
> [@Tester](#): > > While an engineering aide is working on the same problem in the lab. That’s cute reply insinuating that the aide does the real work. But the “aide” is working at the direction on the engineers, not on their own. We employ Engineering Technicians, not aides. An Engineering Technician has a degree and we typically require a minimum of 5 years of experience working in a lab environment. They are perfectly capable of executing testing, performing evaluations, making modifications, providing formal test reports and so on. What they typically cannot do is design engineering. Otherwise, they would be a Design Engineer and be compensated appropriately. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/27 "2023-07-22T22:02:44Z")
My title was Engineering Aide/Lab Technician. Tester ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/28 "2023-07-22T22:18:15Z")
> [@MikeInNH](#): > > But 99.999% Did you know that 99.999% of statistics are made up numbers? 😉 Of course they are not sitting there for ridiculous amounts of time like that. However, it only takes a few moments for someone in production to walk by at the right time and see them pondering the problem. I find it hard to believe that mechanics do not also stop to consider their next move when confronted by a perplexing problem. Of course many repair jobs may be routine but there has to be some that are not and require some deep thought to assess what the next steps in the diagnosis might be. I prefer to develop mutual trust in working relationships. If I had a shop and the mechanic was standing there idle, I would trust they are thinking about some difficult issue to resolve versus assuming they are just slacking off. There will always be the occasional person who violates the trust but deal with them individually versus punishing everyone with micromanagement. I couldn’t tolerate any job where the manager was breathing down your neck all the time. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/29 "2023-07-22T22:25:49Z")
Years ago, my dentist would be working on my teeth, all of a sudden he’d walk out of the room and disappear for 15 minutes. When he came back he’d say “Sorry, I was puzzled & I had to think on how to solve this tooth problem of yours in the other room” … the delay worked out well for me, his ultimate solution usually worked. ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/30 "2023-07-22T23:20:41Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > Did you know that 99.999% of statistics are made up numbers? > [@TwinTurbo](#): > > I couldn’t tolerate any job where the manager was breathing down your neck all the time. Agree on both counts. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/31 "2023-07-23T04:02:16Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > his ultimate solution usually worked. when you say “usually worked” . . . that makes me think his ultimate solution sometimes did NOT work 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/32 "2023-07-23T17:46:58Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > Did you know that 99.999% of statistics are made up numbers? I wasn’t talking about stats on the internet. I specifically stated it was the engineers I’ve worked with and who work for me. > [@TwinTurbo](#): > > I couldn’t tolerate any job where the manager was breathing down your neck all the time. Neither could I. And I’m NOT one of those managers. I have worked for those type of managers before or have worked with them. And every single one were NOT very technical trying to manager engineers. Some companies (like the insurance industry I consulted to for years), would only hire managers if you had a business degree. Someone with business degree managing engineers on an engineering project is so screwed up. Some were engineers with an MBA…but those are very rare. Most were just business majors with zero technical experience. The manager has no clue what is going on. They make extremely ignorant and WRONG decisions. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. If the project is ever successful, it has NOTHING to do with the manager. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/33 "2023-07-23T18:34:04Z")
99.999% productive activity during a 10 hour work shift allows for a break time of 36 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/34 "2023-07-23T20:36:12Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > that makes me think his ultimate solution sometimes did NOT work You are absolutely correct. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/35 "2023-07-24T15:08:24Z")
> [@Nevada\_545](#): > > 99.999% productive activity during a 10 hour work shift allows for a break time of 36 seconds. Enough rest! Get back to work you mud puppies…dance…dance! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/48514_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/36 "2023-07-24T16:17:25Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > Enough rest! Get back to work you mud puppies…dance…dance! I had a small sign in my office with the following message: _ **The beatings will continue until morale improves** _ My Principal glanced at it, and–luckily–he didn’t quite comprehend the message. ---
**Author:** ![mdixter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@mdixter](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mdixter)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/37 "2023-07-28T01:38:38Z")
What everyone said plus extra time if its a turbo ---
**Author:** ![LoudThunder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/loudthunder/32/27769_2.png) [@LoudThunder](https://community.cartalk.com/u/LoudThunder)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/38 "2023-07-28T02:44:44Z")
> [@mdixter](#): > > plus extra time if its a turbo There are some schools of thought that a vehicle with a turbo should have its oil filter pre-filled with oil when possible so that the turbo will not run dry when it is re-started. Is this what you are refereeing to when you ask about oil change times? I would image that the oil filter can be pre-filled while the oil is draining out of the pan, besides how long does it take to prefill an oil filter? I have a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 with a turbo powered diesel and the oil filter cartridge fits into a canister with a screw on top. So after I change out the cartridge, I can prefill the canister and just screw the top back on. But in reality, it takes longer to write this than it does to do it… ![oil](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/a/6/a61634c6fa20050622b5608667869e4fe63f79e5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/39 "2023-07-28T03:22:49Z")
> [@LoudThunder](#): > > **There are some schools of thought that a vehicle** with a turbo **should have its oil filter pre-filled with oil when possible** so that the turbo **will not run dry when it is re-started.** I don’t know any good mechanics (especially if they do internal engine repairs) that don’t put some oil in the filter before installing on any engine, N/A or boosted… The oil pump has to fill the oil filter before it starts filling the bearings etc, that is the whole point of a filter is to filter out the trash before it hits the bearings… Sometimes on the Big Block Mopar’s, you have to burb the oil filter to get it flowing… ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825/40 "2023-07-28T03:30:10Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > I don’t know any good mechanics (especially if they do internal engine repairs) that don’t put some oil in the filter before installing on any engine, What if the oil filter is mounted horizontally? Tester [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/75-min-for-an-oil-change/191825.md?page=3)