# 4th spark plug **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** chevrolet\ **Created:** [October 21, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697 "2024-10-21T17:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mariah234765](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mariah234765](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mariah234765)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/1 "2024-10-21T17:24:59Z")
I installed a new spark plugs for my chevrolet cruze 2012 i followed this method first tighten them by hand until stops then a wrench also untill stops and lastly final tighten from 3 to 6 oclock . On 4th spark plug i followed first 2 steps ok but then 3rd step it tighten only from 3 to 4 oclock the other 3 plugs i did the 3 to 6 ok and then i was able to do a little more tight on them but not the 4th plug . The engine runs fine i think ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/2 "2024-10-21T17:35:03Z")
Where did you learn this method of tightening spark plugs? Tester ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/3 "2024-10-21T18:53:04Z")
That method is a new one on me too. If you want to get it right, then you use a torque wrench. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/4 "2024-10-21T19:03:47Z")
In some applications a torque wrench can’t be used for the final torque. This is how it’s done. > **[Spark Plug Torque Recommendations](https://www.championautoparts.com/Technical/Tech-Tips/Spark-Plug-Torque-Recommendations.html)** > > Get the advice and know-how you need to complete that next repair job with these spark plug torque recommendations. Tester ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/5 "2024-10-21T19:54:01Z")
> [@Tester](#): > > Where did you learn this method of tightening spark plugs? Your guide suggests essentially the exact method the OP used. This a gasket type plug with aluminum heads. > [@Tester](#): > > In some applications a torque wrench can’t be used for the final torque. What applications? Your guide has torque specs for all applications. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/6 "2024-10-21T20:01:35Z")
> [@Mariah234765](#): > > and lastly final tighten from 3 to 6 oclock That’s a 1/4 turn. The instructions I provided doesn’t show that step. **and requires one-sixteenth (1/16) turn.** **will require ⅜-⅝ turn** The article also states, **“If using a torque wrench”** On some vehicles you can’t. Tester ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/7 "2024-10-21T20:11:33Z")
> [@Tester](#): > > That’s a 1/4 turn. > > The instructions I provided doesn’t show that step. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/9/69d536799dc65bbc082f64ad4b06c943803c7d2a.png) > [@Tester](#): > > On some vehicles you can’t. Fair point. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/8 "2024-10-21T20:16:03Z")
That’s not from the article I provided. Who provided that information? And, is that for a tapered seat spark plug? Or a gasket seat spark plug? Tester ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/9 "2024-10-21T21:59:02Z")
> [@Mariah234765](#): > > On 4th spark plug i followed first 2 steps ok but then 3rd step it tighten only from 3 to 4 oclock the other 3 plugs i did the 3 to 6 ok and then i was able to do a little more tight on them but not the 4th plug . If I had this problem I’d measure the engine compression and if all cylinders passed I’d leave well-enough alone. If number 4 showed low compression, I’d remove the plug again and see if there’s something wrong with either the plug’s threads or the cylinder head threads. If there’s a problem it’s usually possible to repair the threads, but may require specialist equipment that your shop will usually have. Suggest to not force anything and don’t try to effect a repair without access the necessary specialist equipment. FWIW, diy’er-me doesn’t tighten spark plugs using that method. I screw them in by hand until they begin to seat, then just snug them up by feel. I have used a torque wrench for this on occassion, but I found I can do it just as accurately by feel. ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/10 "2024-10-22T00:44:26Z")
As far as I can tell the [torque spec on the Cruze plugs is 18 ft.lb.](https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2015/MC-10114879-9999.pdf) Even the Champion site linked keeps saying: _ **Note** : If using a torque wrench, please refer to the Torque Recommendations chart below._" Anyway. I’d imagine that @Mariah234765 ’ s plugs are just fine. Except that I’d be tempted to make sure that the 4th plug didn’t lose its crush washer. But if there’s no obvious problem (including no “Tick or squeak noise from engine”), then let it ride. Once in my life I had a spark plug work loose. (Tapered seat rather than crush washer). I probably just spaced out and didn’t tighten it up after finger tight. Don’t recall. But there is no instant disaster. It was an easy find and fix. The real drag would be if the threads in the head get stripped out. That whole 3-6 o’clock turn would worry me. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/11 "2024-10-22T01:57:07Z")
A carbon film on the spark plug hole threads can cause increased resistance while tightening the spark plug, making the last bit of tightening difficult. Shouldn’t be a problem, I wouldn’t worry about it. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/12 "2024-10-22T03:27:01Z")
Here is the 1/4 turn thing… Gasket Type\*… ![Screenshot 2024-10-21 222425](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/7/6783c434442a3f3c07cce90347bec93a5a0d3eb2.png) ---
**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/13 "2024-10-22T03:58:49Z")
> [@cigroller](#): > > That whole 3-6 o’clock turn would worry me. That equals a 1/4 turn ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/14 "2024-10-22T04:18:22Z")
Yeah, I know. Thanks. After finger tight and wrench tight (going by the OP - that would be when the washer is crushed, I guess) - 1/4 turn is a lot. Aluminum heads. I can feel the threads stripping out now. After finger and then wrench tight? 1/4 turn is WAY past 18 ft. lb. ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/15 "2024-10-22T04:21:21Z")
LOL. " _The content contained in this article is for entertainment and informational purposes only_" ---
**Author:** ![It\_s-Me](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/it_s-me/32/12660_2.png) [@It\_s-Me](https://community.cartalk.com/u/It_s-Me)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 6:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/16 "2024-10-22T06:17:42Z")
> [@cigroller](#): > > After finger tight and wrench tight (going by the OP - that would be when the washer is crushed, I guess) I think you guessed wrong, To me wrench tight would be snugged up before crushing the washer, then a 1/4 turn. I’m guessing that because that is how I’ve always done washer type spark plugs. ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/17 "2024-10-22T12:40:03Z")
> [@Tester](#): > > That’s not from the article I provided. It is. Scroll down to the bottom of your Champion article. It’s for aluminum heads and gasket seat. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/18 "2024-10-22T13:47:17Z")
> [@Rainflurry](#): > > It’s for aluminum heads and gasket seat. Look at the screenshot I posted again, it is also for cast iron head and gasket seat… ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/19 "2024-10-22T16:02:08Z")
> [@It\_s-Me](#): > > To me wrench tight would be snugged up before crushing the washer, then a 1/4 turn. Same here. Except I think the term “wrench tight” is asking for trouble. Ask 5 people and you may get 5 different answers. I personally know some people who’s inner Arnold come out when asked to tighten something with a wrench 😀 I would say 1/4 turn after gasket contact. But I’ve used feel all my life and never had anything come loose or fail in use. I can easily tell when the gasket has stopped compressing. No sense going beyond that, you’re defeating the purpose of the gasket and just deforming things beyond that point… ---
**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/4th-spark-plug/197697/20 "2024-10-22T18:40:22Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > Look at the screenshot I posted again, it is also for cast iron head and gasket seat… Yep, I’m with ya. I was just referring to the fact that the OP’s 2012 Cruze has aluminum heads and gasket seat because Tester questioned it.