# 2t vs 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Created:** [December 23, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626 "2007-12-23T21:46:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TJScott2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TJScott2012](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TJScott2012)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/1 "2007-12-23T21:46:53Z")
2 smoke vs 4 Leave your opinions please ---
**Author:** ![karl-sieger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c77e96/32.png) [@karl-sieger](https://community.cartalk.com/u/karl-sieger)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/2 "2007-12-23T22:43:20Z")
Okay, you asked for it. Here’s my opinion: All crows are black. (Oops, you said opinions, right?) More than one. Okay. I’ve never seen a Purple Cow. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/3 "2007-12-23T22:56:10Z")
It’s crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide. And… I had one grunch, but the eggplant over there. ---
**Author:** ![mcparadise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mcparadise/32/32_2.png) [@mcparadise](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mcparadise)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/4 "2007-12-24T00:38:51Z")
Opinions? OK. This post is nonsense. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking with it. 2 tires vs 4? I could see that, but “2 smoke vs 4” means nothing, at least to me. “Slip a rozzer the dropsy?” VDCdriver, you are such a scamp! “In snide!” Ha, ha! ---
**Author:** ![mr\_josh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mr_josh/32/3008_2.png) [@mr\_josh](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mr_josh)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/5 "2007-12-24T02:26:17Z")
He means 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke, and I’m assuming he’s talking about dirt bikes, and I’m going to say I like my thumper for plodding around the forest trails. ---
**Author:** ![mcparadise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mcparadise/32/32_2.png) [@mcparadise](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mcparadise)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/6 "2007-12-24T02:37:36Z")
OK, but why didn’t the OP just say, “2 stroke vs 4?” 2 smoke must be some kind of code. I guess I’m just too old to understand it. This argument will go on forever, with no solution. There are positives and negatives either way. It’s a personal preference. Buy whatever you like, two stroke or four. Personally, I prefer four. Less oil burning. ---
**Author:** ![mr\_josh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mr_josh/32/3008_2.png) [@mr\_josh](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mr_josh)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 2:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/7 "2007-12-24T02:50:48Z")
“2 smoke” Sounds like 2 stroke and they smoke more than a 4. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/8 "2007-12-24T17:37:14Z")
Trebant. ---
**Author:** ![TJScott2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TJScott2012](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TJScott2012)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/9 "2007-12-24T17:46:49Z")
well mostly that was it, but the 2 smokes the 4 ---
**Author:** ![TJScott2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TJScott2012](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TJScott2012)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/10 "2007-12-24T17:56:22Z")
its sad, all you old mechanics have never heard 2smoke before? ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/11 "2007-12-24T18:18:06Z")
Yup. And a 2-smoke puts out more power to weight than a 4-stroke. And more smoke. And more noise. And more pollution. ---
**Author:** ![Craig58](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Craig58](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Craig58)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/12 "2007-12-24T18:55:38Z")
I always rode 2 stroke dirt bikes back in the dark ages. Dealing with 2 stroke oil and fouled spark plugs was a PITA, and the current 4 strokes have a ton of power. Today I would probably buy a 4 stroke, maybe with a little larger engine. ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/13 "2007-12-24T19:17:26Z")
It is only a matter of time before the EPA outlaws the use of 2-cycle engines in new vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![TJScott2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TJScott2012](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TJScott2012)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/14 "2007-12-24T19:19:52Z")
i dont know about the noise thing, lately people have been modifying their baffles so it sounds like a honda civic (thats bad), i prefer 2 strokes becase i dont really care about pollution, and they will make you a better rider because you learn proper throttle and brake control while trying to keep in the powerband. recently, i decided not to buy the crf 230, and go with the much faster + powerful yz125, the crf 230 is just an overweight, underpowered, fun bike, that will be easy to get bored with unless you put alot of money into it such as a bore kit, a cam, and sprockets ---
**Author:** ![TJScott2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TJScott2012](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TJScott2012)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/15 "2007-12-24T19:27:45Z")
lately theve been talking about electric bikes only! thats gonna really suck! ---
**Author:** ![Craig58](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Craig58](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Craig58)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/16 "2007-12-24T19:34:26Z")
The YZ125 sounds like fun. You will probably want a 250 eventually, and the difference between 2 and 4 stroke will be less noticeable. I really liked 2 stroke GP road racing bikes (before the rule changes), but for day-to-day use, I probably wouldn’t buy a 2 stroke bike. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/17 "2007-12-24T19:37:12Z")
Why? The Tesla roadster will do 0-60 in less than 5 seconds and go about 150 mph. Think of the potential on a bike! ---
**Author:** ![TJScott2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TJScott2012](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TJScott2012)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/18 "2007-12-24T19:39:36Z")
i was going to get the 250, but it was way to expensive. one day if i ever get tired of the 125 i will buy one though. by then my grampa will have broken his lawnmower again and ill have a money source (more lawns to mow) when i do get that 250, itll be sweet, itll have a constant powerband, and the first thing im doing is taking off that retarted dual exhaust and jetting it. ---
**Author:** ![TJScott2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TJScott2012](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TJScott2012)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/19 "2007-12-24T19:50:42Z")
electric dirt bikes i mean ---
**Author:** ![mr\_josh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mr_josh/32/3008_2.png) [@mr\_josh](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mr_josh)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2t-vs-4/8626/20 "2007-12-24T19:57:26Z")
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