# 2020's Ugliest Car **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** toyota, yaris\ **Created:** [January 3, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800 "2020-01-03T15:47:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/62 "2020-01-06T00:50:54Z")
> [@bscar2](#): > > The dual motor AWD version at $50k is priced about the same as a nicely equipped 1/2 ton pickup today. I’ll believe it when I see it… ---
**Author:** ![bscar2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/bscar2/32/2468_2.png) [@bscar2](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bscar2)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/63 "2020-01-06T01:13:04Z")
The price of the Cyber Truck or the 1/2 ton pickup price? A base XL 4 door F150 starts at $33k > **[Design Your Cybertruck | Tesla](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery)** > > Design and order your Cybertruck, the truck of the future. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/64 "2020-01-06T02:15:32Z")
I agree that the Tesla Cybertruck is ugly If/when it goes into production, I suspect it will look drastically different . . . ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Seidel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@Robert\_Seidel](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Robert_Seidel)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/65 "2020-01-06T14:39:56Z")
Reminiscent of the lamented Ford Edsel of yore. ---
**Author:** ![Marnet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/marnet/32/41_2.png) [@Marnet](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Marnet)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/66 "2020-01-06T18:09:00Z")
Not an ugly car but using VW fender parts to create custom VW Beetle looking mini scooters. I got a laugh from the short article’s comment about the first one made is so under-powered it has trouble getting out of its own way much like the original Beetles were. 😁 > **[Volkspod minibikes are a surprise hit for Indiana VW craftsman](https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/11/14/volkspod-minibikes-are-a-surprise-hit-for-indiana-vw-craftsman)** > > Brent Walter didn’t really plan on creating a viral sensation with his Volkspod minibikes, it happened by accident. Now there are buyers lining up to get a pint-sized car show cruiser. Check them out here. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/67 "2020-01-06T18:59:55Z")
OMG!!! I want one. I could use it on campus like a golf cart. They would have been perfect for the now discontinued Mad Bastard Scooter Rally. ---
**Author:** ![StuartBuncher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@StuartBuncher](https://community.cartalk.com/u/StuartBuncher)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/68 "2020-01-06T22:29:28Z")
They aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/69 "2020-01-06T23:31:01Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > If/when it goes into production, I suspect it will look drastically different . . . I would bet the opposite. Those flat surfaces sure are gonna save them a lot of money in the manufacturing process, which will help them keep the price competitive with other trucks (not that I believe their stated price points). And while it’s definitely ugly, if I needed a truck with those capabilities, I wouldn’t care. Frankly I think most trucks out there are ugly these days. Giant monsters that look like something out of the Terminator movies. At least this ugly truck will get away from the other ugly trucks very rapidly. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/70 "2020-01-07T00:04:15Z")
Then we’ll have to agree to disagree . . . in regards to the final form But I’m with you on the price points > [@shadowfax](#): > > And while it’s definitely ugly, if I needed a truck with those capabilities, I wouldn’t care. Frankly I think most trucks out there are ugly these days In my opinion, it fell off the ugly tree and hit every single branch on the way down ---
**Author:** ![FRANKM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/2bfe46/32.png) [@FRANKM](https://community.cartalk.com/u/FRANKM)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/71 "2020-01-09T13:48:41Z")
Apparently, you’ve never seen an Edsel. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/9/1/91cff00f8b10a000214075fe270648bcd53fd339.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/72 "2020-01-09T14:07:42Z")
Speaking of small vehicles, I saw this last week at the Udvar-Hazy Museum in VA: ![P1010381](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/0/d00aa028c80428fd4a17292b1f4f32d077c793cf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/73 "2020-01-09T14:16:30Z")
One of the best museums in the country. Not far from that display is the “flying car:” ![Screen Shot 2020-01-09 at 8.13.18 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/9/d9a6bc0453c435c57cb0dd8ea86e0f7538502561.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/74 "2020-01-09T14:50:48Z")
I fly a lot and I like it…but no way in hell would I get in one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Whitey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/whitey/32/24680_2.png) [@Whitey](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Whitey)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/75 "2020-01-09T15:56:58Z")
Yes, I’ve seen the Edsel, and I very much like its classic styling. ![edsel_pacer_convertible_954](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/4/5/4579d6b1fb0e1dfbf243863843c37d29cbe838d1.jpeg) ![588771](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/e/d/ed847d2b4014df3a41156bec4fa0ec6483070bf1.jpeg) ![CCHISTORY_171129931_AR_-1_ZIPSAHTJGGAT](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/c/d/cdff8e13eee360ac769b94cf94f36f2be4346e17.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/76 "2020-01-09T17:59:05Z")
Didn’t they make something like that one time useing a ford pinto? ---
**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/77 "2020-01-09T18:12:27Z")
> [@Renegade](#): > > Didn’t they make something like that one time useing a ford pinto? Good memory! Yes! The AVE Mizar. They welded the back half of a Cessna to both halves of a Pinto and somehow thought this was a good idea. A wing strut separated from the Pinto on the first test flight and they had to land it in a field, then drive it back to the airport. On the second test flight, the strut popped loose again, and this time the whole wing came off and it crashed, killing the company’s president (and lead designer) and the VP. Turns out the welds were shoddy, as was the design. The one interesting part of the design was that you used both the airplane engine and the Pinto’s stock engine driving the wheels at the same time to shorten the takeoff roll. ![Screen Shot 2020-01-09 at 12.12.09 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/c/dce92ca3539fe2213894c26a64b967034e0ee615.png) ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/78 "2020-01-09T18:42:36Z")
> [@shadowfax](#): > > Good memory! Yes! The AVE Mizar. They welded the back half of a Cessna to both halves of a Pinto and somehow thought this was a good idea. Ugh! Way, way, way too heavy!! 🌴 🕶 🌴 ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/79 "2020-01-09T19:15:23Z")
> [@shadowfax](#): > > Those flat surfaces sure are gonna save them a lot of money in the manufacturing process Maybe not. Big flat areas are notoriously difficult to keep that way. Without bends or other structure, they can be wavy and really difficult to make and keep that way. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/80 "2020-01-09T23:33:17Z")
Wow . . . I’m not going to click “like” because the contraption was literally a death trap ☠ That’s just tragic ---
**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800/81 "2020-01-09T23:55:09Z")
> [@shadowfax](#): > > A wing strut separated from the Pinto on the first test flight and they had to land it in a field, then drive it back to the airport. On the second test flight, the strut popped loose again, and this time the whole wing came off and it crashed, killing the company’s president (and lead designer) and the VP. Turns out the welds were shoddy, as was the design. Here, Hold my beer… I got this! 🍺 One more example of… _There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots!_ _ **CSA** _ 🌴 🕶 🌴 [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020s-ugliest-car/155800.md?page=5)