# 2020 Hyundai Genesis - Pulls right

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** hyundai\
**Created:** [April 13, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081 "2023-04-13T19:52:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![zonardave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/zonardave/32/33861_2.png) [@zonardave](https://community.cartalk.com/u/zonardave)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/21 "2023-04-14T23:46:37Z")

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As I said earlier I’ve been on my own with a 2004 Town Car and no dealer support for the last 10 years so I was really looking for other owners to give me some insights.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/22 "2023-04-14T23:48:45Z")

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> [@zonardave](#):
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> I can check out dealers in the Boston area when I get up there for the summer

If you are going to Boston, you can take your car to the original Car Talk shop. What could be better than that? It’s called “The Good News” shop I think.

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**Author:** ![zonardave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/zonardave/32/33861_2.png) [@zonardave](https://community.cartalk.com/u/zonardave)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/23 "2023-04-14T23:49:53Z")

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If I get as much use out of the Genesis as I did the Town Car I won’t need a new car til I’m 98.

Don’t think I’ll make it that long.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/24 "2023-04-14T23:52:47Z")

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> [@zonardave](#):
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> Don’t think I’ll make it that long

Stay optimistic! No reason to presume you won’t last until 98. Some US Senators remain in office to nearly that age. The current POTUS is not too far away from that age bracket.

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**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/25 "2023-04-15T00:11:11Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> The current POTUS is not too far away from that age bracket.

18 years isn’t a long time?

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/26 "2023-04-15T00:13:18Z")

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18 years ago doesn’t seem like a very long time to geezer me … lol …

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**Author:** ![zonardave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/zonardave/32/33861_2.png) [@zonardave](https://community.cartalk.com/u/zonardave)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/27 "2023-04-15T01:59:34Z")

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It’s a long time when you’re 80🥸

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/28 "2023-04-15T03:41:44Z")

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Lexus LS (when better Buicks are built, Lexus will build them).

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**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/29 "2023-04-15T12:09:00Z")

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> [@zonardave](#):
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> how many Cadillacs are used by professional car services?

I don’t know about others, but this very large firm near me has a significant fleet of Cadillacs:

[https://a1limo.com/fleet-showroom/](https://a1limo.com/fleet-showroom/)

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**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/30 "2023-04-15T12:14:23Z")

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A couple of thoughts:

This is a 3 year old car, so even though the warranty is still in effect, it is not going to cover tires or alignment.

The alignment specs the dealer would be looking at are too wide. The alignment needs to be in the inner half of the range. The dealer is not going to do that, but an alignment specialist might, but you need to ask BEFORE.

I’m going to guess the problem is the tires - a property called conicity (root word cone). Conicity values for aftermarket tires are wider than for OE tires - and you can’t basically fix tire conicity - you can only replace.

So swap the front tires side to side. If the pull changes direction, it’s 100% tires. If nothing changes, it’s 100% alignment. If the problem disappears, it’s both.

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**Author:** ![zonardave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/zonardave/32/33861_2.png) [@zonardave](https://community.cartalk.com/u/zonardave)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/31 "2023-04-15T13:15:11Z")

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Thanks - this is most helpful. I had not considered the tires being a significant problem with only 26K miles. All four tires are Continental ProContacts, which appear to be the standard tire delivered by Genesis.

I am looking forward to what the alignment guys find out on Monday.

Thanks for your help.  
Dave

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/32 "2023-04-15T14:29:02Z")

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I’d rotate tires. For giggles.

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**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/33 "2023-04-15T19:17:33Z")

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In the words of a comic book villain, “Curse you Tireman, another new word to Google”.

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**Author:** ![zonardave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/zonardave/32/33861_2.png) [@zonardave](https://community.cartalk.com/u/zonardave)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/34 "2023-04-17T21:25:14Z")

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OK - Here’s the analysis from Weber Wheel Alignment (West Palm Beach, FL): The alignment was off. But after correcting what they could, the car still drifted to the right. They then swapped the left and right tires, and that eliminated the drift.

They said the problem could have been adjusted out by CASTER adjustment, but the G80 (among many other high-end cars) did not provide for an adjustment in that plane, so swapping tires was the only option.

The really good news is that there was no structural/frame damage, so I’m happy with the vehicle.

The (expected) bad news is that when I asked the dealer to check alignment, tires, and wheel bearings, they did nothing.

Thanks everyone for your input!

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**Author:** ![JoeMario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JoeMario](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JoeMario)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/35 "2023-04-17T22:33:28Z")

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> [@zonardave](#):
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> OK - Here’s the analysis from Weber Wheel Alignment (West Palm Beach, FL): The alignment was off. But after correcting what they could, the car still drifted to the right. They then swapped the left and right tires, and that eliminated the drift.

Hi Zonardave:  
You’ve now confirmed that both your alignment and tires are bad.

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**Author:** ![zonardave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/zonardave/32/33861_2.png) [@zonardave](https://community.cartalk.com/u/zonardave)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/36 "2023-04-17T22:46:18Z")

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The alignment WAS bad - the tire(s) still are☹️

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**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/37 "2023-04-17T23:19:33Z")

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> [@zonardave](#):
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> among many other high-end cars)

It’s not just high end vehicles, a lot of vehicles on the road today only have front toe adjustments, some have rear toe/camber adjustments that only have front toe also… That is without modification or replacement of parts anyway… And just because your alignment is out doesn’t mean it will cause a pull, you can be toe out or toe in and it will not pull, we call it the silent killer cause it will eat the tires and not pull…

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/38 "2023-04-18T00:33:59Z")

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> [@zonardave](#):
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> when I asked the dealer to check alignment, tires, and wheel bearings, they did nothing.

Maybe the problem is, checking alignment, tires, and wheel bearings can’t be done while sitting down drinking coffee and discussing the latest basketball stats … lol … Good for you for sticking w/it & getting the steering pull problem resolved.

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**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/39 "2023-04-18T01:13:11Z")

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Could be bad alignment lead to uneven wear on tires and swapping them moved the drift to the left which is compensated for now

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**Author:** ![CapriRacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/capriracer/32/22_2.png) [@CapriRacer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/CapriRacer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2020-hyundai-genesis-pulls-right/190081/40 "2023-04-18T11:53:37Z")

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Here’s my analysis of the problem now:

There still is an alignment problem and there still is a tire problem, but they are currently offsetting each other. The good news is that both problems are small.

My advice would be to leave things alone for now and wait for the tires to wear out. Be prepared for any rotation or new tires to have a small pull issue. Fix that when the time arrives.

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