# 2018 Porsche Panamera - How do I find a good Porsche shop?

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**Created:** [May 2, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2018-porsche-panamera-how-do-i-find-a-good-porsche-shop/190392 "2023-05-02T18:16:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tennisbum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tennisbum](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tennisbum)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2018-porsche-panamera-how-do-i-find-a-good-porsche-shop/190392/1 "2023-05-02T18:16:04Z")

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I am trying to find an independent Porsche garage in my area (zip code 94404). I don’t think that $485 is reasonable. Can anyone help me?

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> [@Tennisbum](#):
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> I don’t think that $485 is reasonable.

Not sure what you are talking about with the $485. you did not say what it was for.

As far as finding a reliable shop. your best bet is to go online and find a Porsche car club in your area and get InTouch with them. they will probably know the best shops in your area.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2018-porsche-panamera-how-do-i-find-a-good-porsche-shop/190392/3 "2023-05-02T19:54:44Z")

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> [@Tennisbum](#):
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> I don’t think that $485 is reasonable

To do what ? That might be a fair charge but I din’t know since you did not even say what it was for . You have a Porsche so it will cost a lot for anything to be done to it. just put Porsche repair in Google for your area then check reviews.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2018-porsche-panamera-how-do-i-find-a-good-porsche-shop/190392/4 "2023-05-02T20:40:03Z")

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I was in a hurry and left out an important part of my question.

The $485 is for an oil and filter change – my car uses 9 quarts of Mobil 1 – and to reset the “Service Required” warning light.

Ed Weiss

650-573-6895 Home

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You should never put your name and phone number on an open forum . Click on the slanted pencil looking thing and you can edit that out .

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> [@Tennisbum](#):
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> I don’t think that $485

I presume you mean the shop labor rate is $485 per hour. Yikes! That does seem pretty expensive, even for the San Francisco peninsula. Besides WW’s excellent idea above, if you know anybody owning a Porsche, friends, neighbors, relatives etc, ask them who they use. Be sure to tell the shop owner the name of their customer that recommended the shop to you.

One of my neighbors owned 2 identical 911 styles, purchased new. To address the high hour fees presumably, he set up his garage with a small hydraulic lift and did most of the repairs & maintenance himself. Nearly every time I walked by, he was under one of the Porsches. Another neighbor has a Boxster that doesn’t seem to require nearly the same amount of attention.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2018-porsche-panamera-how-do-i-find-a-good-porsche-shop/190392/7 "2023-05-03T00:10:05Z")

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The labor guide shows 1.0 hour labor for oil and filter change on that vehicle. Additional labor may be necessary for other maintenance procedures.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2018-porsche-panamera-how-do-i-find-a-good-porsche-shop/190392/8 "2023-05-03T03:31:02Z")

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The average cost for a Porsche Panamera Oil Change is **between $452 and $482**. Labor costs are estimated between $70 and $88 while parts are priced between $382 and $394.

Sorry to say but you bought a Porsche, if you wanted a cheap vehicle to service I recommend a Corolla…

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> [@Tennisbum](#):
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> The $485 is for an oil and filter change

What did you expect from a $100,000 + car? $40 oil changes? Wait until it needs brakes or tires!!

Well, you bought a Por$che, you are now facing Por$che price$ for $ervice.

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Friend has a Macan, his routine maintenance costs are HIGH. But go to google/yelp, search for Porsche shops near you, call and find out what they charge for that maintenance interval. It may include other inspections, etc.

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Syn oil change? $200? Still too high.

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The manufactures recommended oil for my car is Pennzoil ultra platinum 0w40.  
it takes 7 quarts. A quart is anywhere from $13-15 a quart. plus, about $15 for a oil filter. so, I can see a dealer charging $200.  
I bought 3 cases of oil because I hear sometimes it is hard to find. when I ordered them O’Rielly’s was the only one I could get it from at that time.

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> [@davesmopar](#):
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> The average cost for a Porsche Panamera Oil Change is **between $452 and $482**. Labor costs are estimated between $70 and $88 while parts are priced between $382 and $394.

@Nevada_545 says above there’s one hour labor for oil & filter change. Do Porsche mechanics really only charge $80 per hour for labor? If so, that’s a pretty good bargain. I wonder if those numbers have been switched, it is actually $80 for parts, and $400 for the labor? In any event, seems like OP’s P & L fee for an oil change job is about what’s expected.

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The oil is the special-grade synthetic, pricey, at $15 a quart x 9 quarts + $15 filter you’re at $150, plus dealer markup, plus labor, plus the inspections likely recommended with each change.  
No surprise on the cost, to me.

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> [@texases](#):
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> plus the inspections [Porsche] likely recommended with each change.

It takes me about an hour as well, for either my Ford truck or my Corolla. But I do more than just change the oil and filter. First I idle the engine for a few minutes to warm the oil up, then while the oil drains I check & top off (if necessary) the other fluid levels, lube the hood and door hinges and latches, vacuum accumulated debris from the interior, engine compartment, and the hvac inlet-air screens, and clean windows inside & out. Hopefully the Porsche mechanics do all that for their customers as well. If so, $400-$500 for an oil change seems reasonable.

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You can get a quote from Carrera Motors in San Mateo for starters, found a link to a few others. I know a couple great options in my city for Porsche and other German makes but you’d probably want to talk to a couple places to see how they compare.  
[Porsche Repair Shop in San Mateo, CA | Porsche Specialists (pcarwise.com)](https://www.pcarwise.com/local-help/porsche-repair-shops/pacific-southwest/porsche-repair-shop-in-san-mateo-ca/)

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> [@Mustangman](#):
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> What did you expect from a $100,000 + car? $40 oil changes?

Interestingly, the going rate for a conventional oil change **on a typical car** is now about $80, and the going rate for a synthetic oil change is now about $100. The days of the $39 or $49 oil change are over…unless of course if you DIY.

And at DIY prices, I can get a 5 qt. bottle of conventional 5W30 oil for about $20, or I can get a 5qt. bottle of Dexos-compliant 5W30 synthetic oil for about $25. A brand-name oil filter, such as Wix or AC Delco or the official Toyota filter is about $12.

You are correct that people frequently buy high-performance or luxury vehicles, especially once they have depreciated, and they fail to plan for the maintenance and repair costs. **People often make the mistake of thinking that the maintenance and repair costs on a 10-year old luxury car which costs $12k today will be similar to the maintenance and repair costs on a $12k used Corolla or Camry** …even though the luxury car might have cost $80k or more when it was new. Of course, these “baller on a budget” people end up running the car into the ground because they cannot afford to properly maintain it.

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Nice car, I like it a lot. You have two things working against you. First the Panamera is an expensive car. Many years ago I owned a Porsche 914 2L and had maintenance done at the dealership I bought the car from. All work was very expensive, even though it was a bargain Porsche. While in line I talked to the other customers and they all agreed that shop prices were steep. The other thing is location. I’m sure you’ve noticed that your area has a very high cost of living. Mechanics have to live near you and need a living wage. It doesn’t hurt to look, but I doubt that you will find substantially lower costs unless you cross one of the bridges to the East Bay Area and even then it will still be expensive.

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Has the OP joined any of the online forums dedicated to his make and model?  
That type of forum would be a good place to seek advice regarding an independent Porsche specialist.

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I signed into Consumer Reports to check something else and came across a repair cost estimator. I plugged in your car and got a cost estimate for an oil and filter change. The prices run from $318 - $359 in your zip code, $114 - $146 for labor and $204 - $124 for materials. They also list they also have a list of 37 nearby shops. The closest ones are Boxer Specialist, Near Gear Bimmer Motors, A+ Japanese Auto Repairs, and Max Motors, all within 5 miles of 94404. CR doesn’t rate these shops or provide individual costs, but I assume that the cost estimates they provide come from some or all of the 37 in the list.

Edit: I looked at the estimates again and CR uses Repair Pal. You can just go to the Repair Pal URL for the same information.
