# 2015 Ford Fusion in limp mode

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** engines, ford\
**Created:** [November 24, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141 "2024-11-24T22:48:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/21 "2024-11-25T20:57:19Z")

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“P06A7 Sensor reference voltage “B” circuit range/performance.”

There may be a loss of the 5 volt reference signal to the sensors that are dropping out. Inspect the engine wiring harness for chaffing or cracked wires.

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/22 "2024-11-25T21:05:27Z")

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Also, I am having difficulty following the TPS discussion, there is only one throttle plate sensor value shown, nothing to compare with. The TPS is on the throttle body, the accelerator pedal is in the driver’s compartment.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/23 "2024-11-26T00:34:11Z")

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Re MAP sensor output

I expect the diagnosis will require a tech experienced in how the MAP data is reported on this car. For example in your post 8 above, it shows 11.5 in Hg. I presume this is w/ engine running, near idle rpm. Since ambient air pressure is appx 31.5 in Hg, this would mean the intake manifold is appx -20 in Hg, which is more or less correct for idle w/no turbo boost. But in your post 3 above, it reads 0.0 in Hg with the engine not running. That’s inconsistent with your post 8, b/c with no vacuum ( engine is not running), the intake manifold (absolute pressure) should be appx ambient, 31.5 in Hg, not 0.0. This could be the reason for the p0106 & p0107. A malfunctioning input for the MAP would confuse the engine computer to no end. It may be working sometimes, and not others. You might want to take a close look at the map’s electrical connector . See any bent or corroded pins? On my Corolla, for the MAP to work correctly

- It must receive a constant reference voltage from the ECM.
- It must have a leak free connection to the intake manifold
- Its internal diaphragm must hold vacuuum
- It must be properly grounded
- It must connect its reference input, output signal, and ground to the ECM.  
Your best bet it probably to hire a pro to do the diagnosis, then you can do the suggested repairs yourself if you like. Best of luck.

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**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/24 "2024-11-26T13:11:49Z")

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> [@billmartin\_192005](#):
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> Neg terminal to body is 0.02 ohms, 0V difference. Battery code looks like a 2020 though.

Check to see if you have a voltage drop between the engine and body, not just battery to body. Should be \< 0.1V.

> [@billmartin\_192005](#):
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> Camshaft sensors and MAP both threw errors AND share blue/white from this Mitchell schematic, which goes to VREF. Any thoughts there?

Agreed with @Nevada_545. Back probe the blu/wht wire at each sensor connector to check for 5V. You can check wiring continuity by measuring resistance between pin 6 on the ECM connector and blue/wht wires on the sensor connectors. Should be 0 Ω. If it’s in limp mode with no TPS code, then it’s a battery voltage issue or a bad ECM. AFAIK, the cam, turbo boost, O2, and MAP codes on their own won’t put the engine into limp mode.

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**Author:** ![billmartin\_192005](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/billmartin_192005/32/42231_2.png) [@billmartin\_192005](https://community.cartalk.com/u/billmartin_192005)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/25 "2024-12-02T19:58:16Z")

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Decided to take it into a shop because I was in over my head. Shop found there was oil in the harness where it connects to the ECM. Said he’s seen it before. Somehow oil weeps up from one or more of the sending units up the wire. They cleaned it thoroughly and added dielectric at the connection, but thinks it will happen again.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/26 "2024-12-02T20:02:06Z")

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Thanks for the update. Suggest to mark your post as the “solution”. Helps other posters here w/similar problems. . Click the “solution” icon at the bottom. Liquids contaminating electrical connections , not an unusual problem w/modern cars. . Usually the problem isn’t oil though.

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/27 "2024-12-02T20:33:35Z")

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The leaking oil control solenoid(s) or oil pressure sending unit should have been replaced, was that the solution?

Or is the solution;

> [@billmartin\_192005](#):
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> but thinks it will happen again.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/28 "2024-12-02T22:10:34Z")

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> [@Nevada\_545](#):
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> The leaking oil control solenoid(s) or oil pressure sending unit

Yes, addressing the source of the leak seems a critical task . The oil flows downhill, so it sort of surprises me that the oil pressure sender is located above the ECM. Just curious, where is the ECM located on this car? It is located inside the passenger compartment near the manual trans gear shift lever on my car.

Edit: From what i can tell the ECM appears to be located near the shock/strut top mount, inside the engine compartment on this car. Passenger side, inner fender I think At least that’s what it looks like on the 2.5L non-turbo FWD version. Seems like a leak from the camshaft area might make its way to the ECM connector, but a leak from the oil pressure sender to the ECM connector seems less likely.

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**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/29 "2024-12-03T00:17:43Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> but a leak from the oil pressure sender to the ECM connector seems less likely.

I clearly remember cars where atf would work its way through the harness, from the automatic transmission all the way to the control module

It’s uncommon, but professional mechanics see these things from time to time 😉

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/30 "2024-12-03T00:21:54Z")

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Or, transmission fluid being forced up the speedometer cable into the instrument cluster.

“Hey! Where did this oil on my shoes come from?”

Tester

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/31 "2024-12-03T02:27:32Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> The oil flows downhill, so it sort of surprises me that the oil pressure sender is located above the ECM.

It doesn’t matter where the leak originates, the wire becomes a conduit for the oil. The oil can “wick” up the wire or be forced by pressure from an oil pressure sending unit, the part does have the word _pressure_ in its name.

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**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/32 "2024-12-03T02:34:36Z")

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The next question will be “why doesn’t the oil just drip on the floor like it did in 1972?”

There is a seal inside the connector to keep moisture out, it also contains some of the oil that leaks from the sensor.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/9/e/9e628a8295233f5f99e9a0a21e9abf901474439c.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/33 "2024-12-03T02:42:02Z")

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Just like the seal at the end of the speedometer cable would fail where it connects into the transmission and allow fluid up the cable.

 ![AUTH-003935-4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/6/f/6f4b95cb3ac1e1ae898b63f9d5ff59d90a8b11a5.jpeg)

Tester

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/34 "2024-12-03T02:56:28Z")

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George’s vehicles don’t have control modules

Thus, he doesn’t have a reference point to understand the concept of fluid traveling through a wiring harness and damaging a control module

😵 🥴 😵‍💫

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/35 "2024-12-03T20:43:28Z")

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> [@db4690](#):
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> George’s vehicles don’t have control modules

Why do I have to occasionally access the Corolla’s ECM then?

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/36 "2024-12-04T02:45:41Z")

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I’m with all of you. Don’t love not fixing the symptom and not ready to call it quits. After reading what you all said, got to thinking if the wire is wicking from somehwere to the ECM. After poking around and found this :

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/0/1/012607ed78e4137f8f159f7ecb64fd90ecb1b431.jpeg)  
I’ve cleaned it out but still had some oil in it. Looking on Mitchell, it’s the variable cam timing oil control solenoid intake. It’s about 15" from the ECM, so could potentially push oil thru the harness?

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 6:15am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/37 "2024-12-04T06:15:01Z")

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Yes it could, keep an eye on it, if it does it again then follow the wires to see if the oil is making it to the ecm, might be time to replace the leaking solenoid before it gets worse… just saying…

Could still be another issue also…

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2015-ford-fusion-in-limp-mode/198141/38 "2024-12-04T07:17:49Z")

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Replace that oil control valve/solenoid, there should be no oil in the connector. If that is allowed to continue leaking, the wiring harness and possibly the computer will be ruined. Rock Auto has those for $20 to $40.

Is that the only connector with oil contamination?

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/d/c/dc9f29eaeed99c85acaeb87c60c299a469dcd6d2.jpeg)

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