# 2012 Toyota Camry - More swollen lugs

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** toyota\
**Created:** [November 25, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547 "2019-11-25T22:52:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JOSEPHRDSILVA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/josephrdsilva/32/18465_2.png) [@JOSEPHRDSILVA](https://community.cartalk.com/u/JOSEPHRDSILVA)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/1 "2019-11-25T22:52:28Z")

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Lug nuts have expanded, and I cannot do tire rotation. This is a seven years 0ld car with 96,000 miles on it.

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**Author:** ![old\_mopar\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6bbea6/32.png) [@old\_mopar\_guy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/old_mopar_guy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/2 "2019-11-25T23:04:08Z")

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If the stock lug nut wrench is 19mm, get a 20mm socket and a breaker bar.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/3 "2019-11-26T02:09:29Z")

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They’re called lug nuts with condoms.

> **[Car Talk: Toyota should replace swollen lug nuts](https://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2016/11/05/car-talk-toyota-should-replace-swollen-lug-nuts.html)**
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> I own a 2014 Toyota Sequoia and took the car to the dealer for its 35,000-mile oil change and maintenance - including a tire rotation. The service manager

Tester

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**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/4 "2019-11-26T12:40:01Z")

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Use a 20 or 21mm socket and a hammer to fit the lug nuts. Remove and replace all of them. $30 should get you a full new set.

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**Author:** ![edb1961](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/edb1961/32/122_2.png) [@edb1961](https://community.cartalk.com/u/edb1961)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/5 "2019-11-26T14:32:24Z")

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Recently a coworker had a flat tire on his Focus. Due to swollen lug nut he could not change the tire. I didn’t have a big enough socket, but he used a 4 lb sledge and an old lug wrench to remove the lug nuts. He had a set of replacement lug nuts.

[https://www.harborfreight.com/20-inch-four-way-lug-wrench-94110.html?\_br\_psugg\_q=lug+wrench](https://www.harborfreight.com/20-inch-four-way-lug-wrench-94110.html?_br_psugg_q=lug+wrench)

Ed B.

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**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/6 "2019-11-26T15:44:49Z")

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> [@JOSEPHRDSILVA](#):
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> Lug nuts have expanded, and I cannot do tire rotation. This is a seven years 0ld car with 96,000 miles on it.

This is the first time I hear of this situation.I usually don’t use the kit that came with the car to remove the lug nuts but a dedicated socket(black) that i use on my electric torque wrench to remove them.

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**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/7 "2019-11-26T17:30:44Z")

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If you have never heard of this, you don"t live in the salt belt.

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**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/8 "2019-11-26T17:37:52Z")

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I don’t live in the salt belt but my wife’s car had the same problem what else would cause this?

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**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/9 "2019-11-26T18:36:23Z")

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My 84 GMC S-15 had those type of lug-nuts. They didn’t swell, but the caps became loose. I replaced all of them pronto with solid lug-nuts.

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**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/10 "2019-11-26T18:44:26Z")

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> [@oldtimer-11](#):
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> If you have never heard of this, you don"t live in the salt belt.

I live in Canada and we know more about rust than anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/11 "2019-11-26T20:45:37Z")

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> [@COROLLAGUY1](#):
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> I live in Canada and we know more about rust than anyone else.

Then how come you’ve never heard of swollen lug nuts from rust?

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/2/3/23f24abba5350141f43a4c2d60d3ed9e9103b2ed.jpeg)

Tester

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**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/12 "2019-11-26T21:35:15Z")

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There have been about a dozen threads on this over the last several years…

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**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/13 "2019-11-26T21:38:57Z")

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> [@Tester](#):
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> Then how come you’ve never heard of swollen lug nuts from rust?

I use 4 winter tires mounted on steelies with regulars (short)cone shape nuts.I use the longer ones for my summer tires that are mounted on alloy wheels.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/14 "2019-11-26T21:43:01Z")

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Then that proves Canadians **DON’T** know more about rust than anyone else.

Right?

Tester

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**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/15 "2019-11-26T21:44:17Z")

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Problem is that some people over torque them and they crack.Happened to my neighboor POS Kia last month.

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**Author:** ![thegreendrag0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thegreendrag0n/32/9265_2.png) [@thegreendrag0n](https://community.cartalk.com/u/thegreendrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/16 "2019-11-26T21:59:32Z")

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I’ve seen similar damage on seemingly “stainless” grill grates, which apparently only had stainless foil over regular iron base - gets swollen and fails in a similar way

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/17 "2019-11-27T00:27:28Z")

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I researched it a little, not a rust belt issue, expansion and contraction of the different metals allow the rust to grow due to moisture. Not necessarily a salt related issue.

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**Author:** ![AlanY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f4b2a3/32.png) [@AlanY](https://community.cartalk.com/u/AlanY)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/18 "2019-11-27T01:20:02Z")

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I agree. I live in Southern California and we usually don’t have salt or rust issues but a friend of mine has a 2013 Ford Escape that had swollen lug nuts. It was actually on the driver’s side only for some reason. We were trying to take off the wheels to get a better look at the condition of the brakes. At least we could inspect the passenger side. I have since bought a 19.5mm flip socket that is designed to remove swollen 19mm sockets. The other end of the socket is 18.5mm for those instances where the outer sleeve has come off.

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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/19 "2019-11-27T02:32:33Z")

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A grabber-tyupe socket would probably work for this problem as well. Something like this.

> **[Socket Set with 3/8" Drive Size and Chrome Finish](https://www.grainger.com/product/12P176?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgr-2uayJ5gIViKDsCh0DKQ1-EAYYAyABEgJwOfD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC%3A%2BGoogle%2BPLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIgr-2uayJ5gIViKDsCh0DKQ1-EAYYAyABEgJwOfD_BwE%3AG%3As&s_kwcid=AL%212966%213%2150916772557)**
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> Socket Set, Metric and SAE, 3/8" Dr, 2 pc

It seems to me that a lug nut sporting a chrome finish is eventually going to cause problems such as this. Maybe skip the chrome embellishment for the next set. My 45+ year old truck has the same lug nuts it came with new, and for many years those lug nuts have been uncovered and totally exposed to the elements. I’m not sure what they are made of, but definitely no chrome plating.

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**Author:** ![thegreendrag0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thegreendrag0n/32/9265_2.png) [@thegreendrag0n](https://community.cartalk.com/u/thegreendrag0n)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-toyota-camry-more-swollen-lugs/153547/20 "2019-11-27T03:48:47Z")

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> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#):
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> My 45+ year old truck has the same lug nuts it came with new, and for many years those lug nuts have been uncovered and totally exposed to the elements.

Sorry, George, but how how often you have rain (I’m not talking snow+salt) in sunny California? 🙂

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