# 2012 Kia Optima "Big Toasted Marshmallow"

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-kia-optima-big-toasted-marshmallow/136274>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 11, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-kia-optima-big-toasted-marshmallow/136274 "2019-03-11T13:43:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![common-sense-answer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/common-sense-answer/32/716_2.png) [@common-sense-answer](https://community.cartalk.com/u/common-sense-answer)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-kia-optima-big-toasted-marshmallow/136274/1 "2019-03-11T13:43:22Z")

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> **[Fire engulfs Michigan man's Kia; he's not the only one](https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2019/03/11/kia-catches-fire/3105713002/)**
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> A man from Holland watched his car go up in flames for no reason. He isn't alone when it comes to Kia and Hyundai drivers.

According to the article this Kia isn’t the only one to catch fire. Is it time for a bigger, broader, better full-blown recall?  
_ **CSA** _  
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**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-kia-optima-big-toasted-marshmallow/136274/2 "2019-03-12T02:51:06Z")

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Aren’t all the affected engines already under recall?

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**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2012-kia-optima-big-toasted-marshmallow/136274/3 "2019-03-12T03:25:03Z")

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Not yet from my read. It is not necessarily the engine per say, could be electrical, one report was a short started a leaf pile under the car on fire. [https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/06/27/feds-investigate-fires-hyundai-kia-engine-failures/739097002/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/06/27/feds-investigate-fires-hyundai-kia-engine-failures/739097002/)