# 2009 BMW 328 - repair question **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** bmw, 328\ **Created:** [October 27, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638 "2018-10-27T19:09:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/21 "2018-11-01T03:08:33Z")
Folks here with similar problems (usually on pick-up trucks, rather than sedans) have sometimes found the problem isn’t the driveshaft or the u-joints, but that the center carrier bearing isn’t properly aligned/adjusted. You might google that term using the forum search feature, the icon that looks like a magnifying glass above right. Another idea, if you are able to feel the vibration just rev’ing the engine in neutral, ask your shop to see what happens when you disconnect the driveshaft as an experiment. If you can still feel the vibration, not driveshaft related. Bent rear axle shafts or rear differential problem are another possibility. I guess one way to test that theory is to disconnect the driveshaft, then have the car towed behind another vehicle to see if the vibration is still there. Only try that if it can be done safely of course. ---
**Author:** ![GaryOglesby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@GaryOglesby](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GaryOglesby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/22 "2018-11-01T16:58:26Z")
In the cockpit by the glovebox and passenger door. Between 1500- 2000 rpms, then smooths out. ---
**Author:** ![GaryOglesby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@GaryOglesby](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GaryOglesby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/23 "2018-11-01T16:59:26Z")
1500 -2000 rpms . Around 20 -30 mph. ---
**Author:** ![GaryOglesby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@GaryOglesby](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GaryOglesby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/24 "2018-11-01T17:02:18Z")
Thanks, im headed to BMW to complain about a mis- diagnosis. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/25 "2018-11-01T17:06:43Z")
I can hear them now . " We stand by our diagnosis but you had someone else do the work " ---
**Author:** ![GaryOglesby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@GaryOglesby](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GaryOglesby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/26 "2018-11-01T17:14:03Z")
Will let you know. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/27 "2018-11-01T17:22:20Z")
> [@GaryOglesby](#): > > In the cockpit by the glovebox and passenger door. Between 1500- 2000 rpms, then smooths out. You can only feel this vibration near the glove box and right door? I suspect you are talking about a noise, not a vehicle vibration. Have you driven this vehicle with a technician so they can feel the vibration or listen to the noise? ---
**Author:** ![GaryOglesby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@GaryOglesby](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GaryOglesby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/28 "2018-11-01T20:56:09Z")
Just got back from Tom Bush BMW ,Jacksonville, FL. After 2 hours they said they mis-diagnost the car. Now I need a torgue converter/ trans. They would not even comp me a transmission flush after I spent 1000.00 (at another shop) because of there original prognosis !!! ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/29 "2018-11-01T22:07:09Z")
This is an ugly situation . . . The BMW dealer’s diagnosis of the driveshaft was clearly incorrect Yet you had the driveshaft replaced elsewhere Thus, you probably have little to no leverage with the BMW dealer, concerning their (mis)diagnosis Considering the car is driveable, I’d be hesitant about spending any money on the torque converter/trans at this point To be honest, I’d think about the car as short-term from now on. Maybe 2 - 3 more years, at best. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/30 "2018-11-01T23:44:23Z")
If it is in your budget to trade that is what I would do. Life is too short to let a vehicle drive you nuts. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/31 "2018-11-02T00:38:28Z")
I’m curious, how much did you pay for the original diagnosis That turned out to be incorrect? ---
**Author:** ![kurtwm1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kurtwm1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kurtwm1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/32 "2018-11-02T01:02:15Z")
Maybe I am wrong, but I would assume you get a check engine light if there is something wrong with the _torque_ converter? I would recommend to find another shop. Don’t tell them what to do, but get a reliable diagnosis and go from there. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/33 "2018-11-02T01:07:09Z")
> [@kurtwm1](#): > > Maybe I am wrong, but I would assume you get a check engine light if there is something wrong with the _torque_ converter? I’ve worked on a few vehicles with a torque converter problem . . . no check engine light, no codes, no pending codes ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/34 "2018-11-02T02:12:49Z")
> [@GaryOglesby](#): > > Now I need a torgue converter/ trans Are they saying you need both the torque converter and the automatic transmission replaced? Or just the torque converter? ---
**Author:** ![thegreendrag0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thegreendrag0n/32/9265_2.png) [@thegreendrag0n](https://community.cartalk.com/u/thegreendrag0n)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/35 "2018-11-02T12:46:08Z")
> [@TwinTurbo](#): > > I’m curious, how much did you pay for the original diagnosis That turned out to be incorrect? similar story on BMW service I have 2 coworkers: one is “rogue DIY” who would be able to disassemble/reassemble any car to the last bolt, another one who does not know how to grab a wrench. they are friends, BTW. So, the second one bought a used BMW and eventually after a year or so it needed repair, which was quoted by the dealer as some mid-4-digit quote replacing half of suspension. the first one replaced him only a couple of parts, at under $100 cost and car ran great for another 2 years before he traded. the point of the story: dealer is inclined to make a sloppy diagnostics, but make sure they do a lot of work as it results in higher profit ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/36 "2018-11-02T13:17:25Z")
ah hindsight. dealer would have changed bearing alone for 500. you said so in first post. but they preferred changing the entire driveshaft. than you find you still have vibration and they say “see. told you so”? but your wallet would only have been out 500. at least dealer could than try to decide what the real issue is now ---
**Author:** ![GaryOglesby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@GaryOglesby](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GaryOglesby)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/37 "2018-11-02T17:40:12Z")
Good point , thanks. ---
**Author:** ![GaryOglesby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@GaryOglesby](https://community.cartalk.com/u/GaryOglesby)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/38 "2018-11-02T17:46:19Z")
I m just going to baby it and take it easy. Cant afford to spend any more on it and the mental anguish. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/39 "2018-11-02T18:08:44Z")
Why would you believe the dealer now if they misdiagnosed the problem the first time? They could be right, but I wouldn’t go there again for service. If you want a diagnosis, take it to the indie shop that did the drive line work for you and get their opinion. Since you didn’t ask for a diagnosis before, don’t give them a hard time. Just say you got another diagnosis from the dealer and you don’t trust them anymore, and want to develop a relationship with a different service shop. Ask them how urgent the work is and go from there. If they think you could be a long term customer, they might not try to sell you work you don’t really need immediately. ---
**Author:** ![kurtwm1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kurtwm1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/kurtwm1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638/40 "2018-11-02T18:11:08Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > If they think you could be a long term customer, they might not try to sell you work you don’t really need immediately. They shouldn’t do that, regardless whether or not I am a long-term customer. [Previous page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2009-bmw-328-repair-question/127638.md?page=3)