# 2005 Saturn vue any help please **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** vue, saturn\ **Created:** [May 31, 2020, 10:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-saturn-vue-any-help-please/165097 "2020-05-31T10:23:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Josh-175](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e47774/32.png) [@Josh-175](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Josh-175)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 10:23am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-saturn-vue-any-help-please/165097/1 "2020-05-31T10:23:18Z")
Hi so I was looking for some help if possible I have a 2005 Saturn Vue 2.2 L four-cylinder engine. A couple weeks ago my car started to sputter whenever at a stop or at idle. I assumed it was a spark plug issue and I change them and things were fine for a few days and the problem reoccurred. What’s weird is that it’s completely random and happens sometimes and other days the car is completely fine and runs normal. I had the codes read and it came back a random misfire so I bought two fuel injector treatments and That didn’t fix it as well. My next step was to change the coil boots which I did but now the problem is worse the car barely starts and runs like hell with an awful idle and black smoke coming out of the exhaust. I thought maybe it could be the coil pack going bad but they are 100+ dollars and I don’t have that type of money to be taking guesses. I also thought maybe it could be the coil pack connector but I wouldn’t know how to tell If it’s not getting power or broken and wouldn’t know how to diagnose or fix that. I did the flat head screwdriver to the back of each fuel injector I can hear each one pulsing fine so I don’t think it’s a fuel injector problem. I have A lead tester and put The alligator clip to the positive battery post and got green lights on all pins in the connector except one not sure if that matters but I can’t find a diagram anywhere relating to that connector. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I am at a standstill. ---
**Author:** ![COROLLAGUY1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/corollaguy1/32/7575_2.png) [@COROLLAGUY1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/COROLLAGUY1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-saturn-vue-any-help-please/165097/2 "2020-05-31T12:39:41Z")
> [@Josh-175](#): > > Any help > or suggestions would be greatly appreciated Find a good independant mechanic instead of throwing parts at it. He will save you time and money and diagnose your car properly. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-saturn-vue-any-help-please/165097/3 "2020-05-31T14:21:13Z")
The 2.2 is known for timing chain issues. I know the chain/guides can fail to the point where the motor suffers major damage. Usually it is noisy. Don’t think it is included with gradual motor performance issues. Let’s hope you don’t have the auto trans. The cvt from hell.