# 2005 Pontiac Vibe: Manual Trans. fluid change at 60k miles?

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-pontiac-vibe-manual-trans-fluid-change-at-60k-miles/30367>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Created:** [May 12, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-pontiac-vibe-manual-trans-fluid-change-at-60k-miles/30367 "2009-05-12T16:51:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![russoja1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb8c5e/32.png) [@russoja1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/russoja1)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-pontiac-vibe-manual-trans-fluid-change-at-60k-miles/30367/1 "2009-05-12T16:51:41Z")

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I think I heard Ray say that regardless of what the owners manual says, he recommends changing the transmission fluid at 60k miles. Did I hear him right?? My owners manual says don’t worry about changing the fluid. Any input from the ‘community’?

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**Author:** ![mcparadise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mcparadise/32/32_2.png) [@mcparadise](https://community.cartalk.com/u/mcparadise)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-pontiac-vibe-manual-trans-fluid-change-at-60k-miles/30367/2 "2009-05-12T16:53:14Z")

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I think the 60K interval refers to automatic transmission fluid. Manual transmission fluid should be changed according the the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule.

More frequent changes, however, certainly won’t hurt.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-pontiac-vibe-manual-trans-fluid-change-at-60k-miles/30367/3 "2009-05-12T16:54:22Z")

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That’s about the mileage at which I change out the gear oil in my manual transmission and differential in my Nissan pickup.

Tester

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**Author:** ![andrew\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@andrew\_j](https://community.cartalk.com/u/andrew_j)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-pontiac-vibe-manual-trans-fluid-change-at-60k-miles/30367/4 "2009-05-12T17:28:38Z")

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What are your ownership goals? If 150k or less I would leave it be and save the money. If you plan on driving the vehicle into the 200k-300k range yourself I would change it somewhere between 60k and 100k.

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**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-pontiac-vibe-manual-trans-fluid-change-at-60k-miles/30367/5 "2009-05-12T18:14:59Z")

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russoja: A Toyota Matrix is the same car as a Pontiac Vibe. The Toyota maintenance manual states that for a manual transmission Matrix under normal use, transmission fluid should be changed EVERY 4 YEARS or 40,000 MILES!!! If you are towing a trailer or driving on muddy country roads, the interval is 2 YEARS OR 20,000 MILES!

GM still sells “low maintenance”, but if Toyota recommends the above change intervals for the exact same car, I would follow the Toyota schedule!!!

Hope this helps your make your car last a very long time.