# 2005 Honda Oil Smoke on Start Up **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** pilot, honda\ **Created:** [March 14, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016 "2020-03-14T14:17:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![part-throttle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@part-throttle](https://community.cartalk.com/u/part-throttle)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/1 "2020-03-14T14:17:14Z")
Our 2005 Honda Pilot with 180k has done this twice that I have noticed: Lots of oil smoke on start up. It then runs fine and does not really use any oil. At least that is noticeable. It does not smoke while driving and seems to have normal power/etc. In the old days it would have been valve stem seals as the #1 culprit. Given that its a more modern car (for me anyways) is there a different thing to check first like a vacuum sensor or PCV?? Any help appreciated!! ---
**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/2 "2020-03-14T15:20:17Z")
Valve stem seals would be my hunch, too. I don’t know how newer engine designs might also cause this. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/3 "2020-03-14T15:28:15Z")
Classic leaky valve stems. When my 1975 Civic [edit] CVCC did it it turned out the valve guides were also worn. If you’re not adding oil between changes and it’s not fouling the plugs I would just drive on. ---
**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/4 "2020-03-14T15:29:23Z")
My 1976 Civic CVCC did, too, big time. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/5 "2020-03-14T15:36:02Z")
> [@part\_throttle](#): > > In the old days it would have been valve stem seals as the #1 culprit. You have the classic symptoms You speak about modern cars, but your car is 16yrs old and has 180K miles ---
**Author:** ![Docnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Docnick](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Docnick)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/6 "2020-03-14T15:43:35Z")
My 1984 Chevy Impala 305 V8 did precisely that. Since it started at about 150,000 miles when the car was 9 years old, I just added oil at about 1500 miles and carried on. After giving the car to my son in college, he did the same and 4 years later sold the car for $750. ---
**Author:** ![part-throttle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@part-throttle](https://community.cartalk.com/u/part-throttle)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/7 "2020-03-14T15:59:43Z")
Thank you all for the quick replies!! db4690: 15 yrs old IS modern for me!! I was hoping it was something else but I really dont feel like getting it fixed if it is indeed valve seals. If there is any other input or things to look for pls post your ideas. ---
**Author:** ![part-throttle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@part-throttle](https://community.cartalk.com/u/part-throttle)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/8 "2020-12-03T03:06:47Z")
UPDATE!!! The old Honda has been smoking for a while now and we even gave it the nickname ‘Old Smokey’. I had a leaky valve cover and changed out a gasket, wondered what the little plastic thingy on the front of the cover was, especially becasue it came out in pieces. I found out it is the PCV. I replaced it and wonder-of-wonders, the oil burning has ceased!! ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/9 "2020-12-03T03:22:34Z")
Was the smoke emitted from the tail pipe or from the engine compartment? ---
**Author:** ![part-throttle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@part-throttle](https://community.cartalk.com/u/part-throttle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2005-honda-oil-smoke-on-start-up/161016/10 "2020-12-04T02:25:09Z")
It was from the exhaust. It seems that oil would get trapped in the broken pcv as’y and when the engine started the hi vacuum condition must have sucked it up.