# 2004 Lexus ES 330 - Clunks and rattles **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** lexus\ **Created:** [August 2, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201 "2020-08-02T19:50:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Russ56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/russ56/32/22034_2.png) [@Russ56](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Russ56)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/1 "2020-08-02T19:50:58Z")
Bought a proverbial cream puff from a deceased woman’s estate sale. 2004 Lexus ES330 in mint condition with 48K miles. Like new condition all around but the steering wheel & column, when executing a turn, make a funny clunking, rattling sound. Lexus dealer had no idea and suggested a new rack–not happening by the way, and mechanic checked it and has no idea. It sounds like the knuckle is loose down near the rack but all is tight and sound. Helpful service rep said “it’ll get worse.” HELP ---
**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/2 "2020-08-02T21:02:53Z")
It’s a known problem. TSB ST001-05 APR 05 Steering - Clunk/Pop/Knock Noise Turning. You’re correct that it’s the intermediate shaft (“knuckle”) in the steering column. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/3 "2020-08-03T02:39:34Z")
> [@Russ56](#): > > Lexus dealer had no idea and suggested a new rack– Good thing you didn’t take their advice, as it would have cost you a lot of money and not solved anything > [@Russ56](#): > > mechanic checked it and has no idea. Unfortunately, this is one of the things that stump you until/unless you’ve experienced it yourself as a mechanci Like @davepsinbox_157004 in says . . . classic case of bad intermediate steering shaft if it’s any consolation, this is a fairly common problems on lots of different vehicles of various makes ---
**Author:** ![davepsinbox\_157004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@davepsinbox\_157004](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davepsinbox_157004)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/4 "2020-08-03T02:49:30Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > Unfortunately, this is one of the things that stump you until/unless you’ve experienced it yourself Heck, I’m not even a mechanic, as @db4690 will attest. I found the answer on a Lexus forum. I’ve done enough handyman projects to appreciate the value of research. ---
**Author:** ![Russ56](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/russ56/32/22034_2.png) [@Russ56](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Russ56)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/5 "2020-08-03T16:56:46Z")
I visited the Lexus site before and also read this diagnosis…so my Mechanic dismantled some of it but found nothing wrong with the shaft. He wanted to take the entire column out and examine and dismantle the assembly but at $100 an hour, I passed on it. Sounds like _with_ the column assembly bolted in place, this faulty “intermediate” shaft doesn’t “wet the bed” because of tension still on it. THANK YOU, all for your opinions ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/6 "2020-08-03T19:08:49Z")
Did they check the cradle/sub-frame bushings for wear? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/5/15902dc109570b3e8ad83a82e4a4179488b55266.jpeg) They’re located at each corner. Tester ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/7 "2020-08-03T22:44:09Z")
Cv joint can cause similar symptoms but noise usually seems to be coming from outside the pass compartment. But if sound is most evident during slow speed sharp angle turns like turning from a stp sign keep cvs in play. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-lexus-es-330-clunks-and-rattles/168201/8 "2020-08-03T23:24:46Z")
Dorman 425-454 . . . that is the number of the part you need Look on rockauto, partsgeek, or something along those lines If you’ve got tools and are mechanically inclined, you can take care of this yourself The mechanic would waste his time taking the steering system apart The steering shaft won’t be falling apart . . . it only clunks and makes noise under a load