# 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 - Elbow deep in this engine and I need help **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** dodge, engines\ **Created:** [November 23, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-dodge-ram-3500-elbow-deep-in-this-engine-and-i-need-help/172585 "2020-11-23T01:52:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/67e7ee/32.png) [@Bad](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Bad)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-dodge-ram-3500-elbow-deep-in-this-engine-and-i-need-help/172585/1 "2020-11-23T01:52:10Z")
The front main shaft oil seal kit I purchase has 5 parts. The wear sleeve, the plastic centering sleeve, the seal, the depth gauge, and what appears to be a rubber oil slinger. When I took this apart, there was a ring on the outside of the cover and it just fell out when I removed the harmonic balancer. My question is, do I put this rubber ring on before or after I put the cover on (with seal installed)? ---
**Author:** ![pleasedodgevan2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pleasedodgevan2](https://community.cartalk.com/u/pleasedodgevan2)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-dodge-ram-3500-elbow-deep-in-this-engine-and-i-need-help/172585/2 "2020-11-24T06:32:02Z")
I don’t know but others may want to know which engine the seal kit goes on. ---
**Author:** ![Bad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/67e7ee/32.png) [@Bad](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Bad)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2004-dodge-ram-3500-elbow-deep-in-this-engine-and-i-need-help/172585/3 "2020-11-25T18:44:27Z")
I found out kit has two parts 1. Install components 2. Tools 3. Install components Seal Dust Cover Wear Sleeve 1. Tools Plastic centering gage Metal depth gage