# 2003 Voyager 3.3 v-6, What wears out in the transmission? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** voyager, chrysler\ **Created:** [March 23, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298 "2014-03-23T06:04:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Run\_From\_Reality\_196](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@Run\_From\_Reality\_196](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Run_From_Reality_196)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/1 "2014-03-23T06:04:28Z")
Grumbling noise when put in gear and held with brake. When driving, metal on metal screeching noise. At a stop, transmission felt engaged and the engine almost died. Rough shifting from one to two. What parts need to be looked at in the transmission? ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/2 "2014-03-23T06:09:37Z")
Who said the problem was in the transmission? Mileage, maintenance history, other symptoms (if any)?? Changed the serpentine belt lately? The tensioner? Changed the plugs lately? How’d the plugs look? Done a tuneup lately? Checked the tranny fluid level? Have you had the ECU scanned for codes? We need something to work with here. Post back. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 7:19am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/3 "2014-03-23T07:19:59Z")
Is the Check Engine light on? Tester ---
**Author:** ![Caddyman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/caddyman/32/23_2.png) [@Caddyman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Caddyman)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 8:33am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/4 "2014-03-23T08:33:14Z")
How many miles on the Plymouth? ---
**Author:** ![pleasedodgevan2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pleasedodgevan2](https://community.cartalk.com/u/pleasedodgevan2)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 8:39am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/5 "2014-03-23T08:39:48Z")
If it is the transmission, it might be a waste of time to take it apart. The whole thing may have to be discarded. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/6 "2014-03-23T18:45:35Z")
A failing motor mount might be part of the problem. But if there is a failure in the transmission it is unlikely that anyone would open it to replace a failed componemt. When an automatic transmission is removed and opened it is usually overhauled/rebuilt. ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/7 "2014-03-23T18:51:20Z")
In all practical terms, you can’t just look at parts in the transmission. If you’re looking in the transmission, then you’re just all in at that point. The best thing these days is probably just to drop in a reman unit from a reputable company with a good warranty. But, do note the above. You need a diagnosis. ---
**Author:** ![Run\_From\_Reality\_196](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@Run\_From\_Reality\_196](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Run_From_Reality_196)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 6:44am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/8 "2014-03-24T06:44:56Z")
Thank you all for the input. No check engine light, problem is in the tranny. I was thinking the torque converter is failing to disengage when the rpms drop. What say you all? Would anyone replace the torque converter? ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 7:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/9 "2014-03-24T07:32:15Z")
The torque converter is possibly the cause for your problems but I would recommend getting a diagnosis from a highly regarded independant transmission shop before making a decision. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 7:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/10 "2014-03-24T07:46:43Z")
I would do nothing without as a very minimum scanning the ECU for stored fault codes. The even better approach is to follow Rod’s recommendation and get an analysis done by a competent independent shop. Diagnosis is always cheaper and more successful than guessing. In most cases, those who begin by doing parts-swapping end up doing diagnosis anyway. Might as well start with the diagnosis. ---
**Author:** ![oblivion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@oblivion](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oblivion)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2003-voyager-3-3-v-6-what-wears-out-in-the-transmission/84298/11 "2014-03-24T14:02:58Z")
The transmission controller needs to be scanned for fault codes. The onboard diagnostics are sophisticated enough that an experienced shop (not a Cottman or similar) will likely be able to tell what’s wrong with a test drive and the results of scanning it. But based on your symptoms, it does sound like it’s possible that the torque converter has a problem.