# 2002 Toyota Avalon starts when it wants

**URL:** <https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779>\
**Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\
**Tags:** avalon, toyota\
**Created:** [October 15, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779 "2018-10-15T00:05:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Brian48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Brian48](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Brian48)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/1 "2018-10-15T00:05:50Z")

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I have a 2002 Toyota Avalon XLS. Starts when it wants to, not my idea in a car. After an episode, I sprayed ether into the air intake and it wanted to start, but died when the ether bunny fumes died. Figured it was the fuel pump. Replaced it, ran fine, until I drove to my Dad’s, he is 87, irrelevant, 20 minute drive there and then to the hardware store, 5 minutes. Cranks but wont start. Got back to his home to fix the sump pump and woudn’t start athisi home. After several attempts, finally started. What’s up?

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**Author:** ![shadowfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/shadowfax/32/13026_2.png) [@shadowfax](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shadowfax)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/2 "2018-10-15T13:52:10Z")

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Does it always fail to start after you’ve driven it for awhile and shut it off? i.e., is it warm when it won’t start? Or does it also fail to start the first time you try to start it for the day?

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**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/3 "2018-10-15T14:10:28Z")

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Can you always hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds when you turn the key to Run (not all the way to Start)?

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**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/4 "2018-10-15T14:22:50Z")

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I would guess an intermittent fuel pump relay. Since it’s intermittent, replace it for $5-$10 and see what happens.

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/5 "2018-10-15T15:18:03Z")

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A bad Crankshaft Position Sensor can cause an intermittent no-start problem.

Tester

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**Author:** ![Brian48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Brian48](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Brian48)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/6 "2018-10-15T15:53:49Z")

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It cranks over but won’t start

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**Author:** ![Brian48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Brian48](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Brian48)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/7 "2018-10-15T15:56:53Z")

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I usually started I can drive it for a short period of time generally less than 5 miles turn it off come back out shortly and it won’t start seems as though it will start if it sat for a while. I took the gas cap off thinking it could be vapor lock but it didn’t help. I was using the valet key what had happened and I saw something about programing keys

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/8 "2018-10-15T15:57:29Z")

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It’ll crank over but not start because if the crank sensor isn’t sending a signal to the computer, the computer see’s no reason to operate the fuel and ignition systems.

Tester

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**Author:** ![Brian48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Brian48](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Brian48)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/9 "2018-10-15T15:58:14Z")

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Is that located in the gas tank with a fuel pump

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**Author:** ![shanonia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@shanonia](https://community.cartalk.com/u/shanonia)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/10 "2018-10-15T17:02:29Z")

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No, it’s on the engine probably near the harmonic balancer (big pulley driven by the crankshaft) maybe under the timing belt/chain cover. There’ll be wires coming from it even if it’s hidden.

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**Author:** ![Brian48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Brian48](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Brian48)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/11 "2018-10-15T18:21:52Z")

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Thanks for the response. Can the crank sensor be intermittent? The car does eventually start, but then it happens all over again

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**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/12 "2018-10-15T18:25:49Z")

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Read this.

[http://freeasestudyguides.com/crankshaft-position-sensor.html](http://freeasestudyguides.com/crankshaft-position-sensor.html)

Tester

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**Author:** ![Rainflurry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cab0a1/32.png) [@Rainflurry](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rainflurry)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2002-toyota-avalon-starts-when-it-wants/126779/13 "2018-10-16T03:29:46Z")

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I don’t think it’s the crankshaft position sensor since you get it to fire using starting fluid when this occurs so you have spark. I believe the fuel pump relay is called the EFI Main relay, under the drivers side kick panel? If you go buy one at a local parts store, look in a manual.
