# 2001 Chevy Prizm LSi - Burns Tons of Oil **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** prizm, chevrolet\ **Created:** [March 30, 2014, 9:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396 "2014-03-30T09:01:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![evanto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c6cbf5/32.png) [@evanto](https://community.cartalk.com/u/evanto)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 9:01am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/1 "2014-03-30T09:01:42Z")
I’ve owned a 2001 Chevy Prizm LSi for about 12 years and it’s been burning oil at a rate of about 1 quart every 200 miles or so. No tail pipe emissions or noticeable smoke and no OBDC codes. Anyone have similar problems? ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 9:16am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/2 "2014-03-30T09:16:43Z")
This is suggestive of a possibly serious problem. It is definitely extremely excessive. How many miles does it have on it? Have you kept it maintained per the owner’s manual recommendations? Do you check your oil level routinely? Is this recent, or has it gradually built to this?? How’s the power? Any other symptoms? Any recent work done? What was the last repair done? Answer the questions and we’ll have a place to begin. ---
**Author:** ![knfenimore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc348/32.png) [@knfenimore](https://community.cartalk.com/u/knfenimore)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/3 "2014-03-30T17:43:10Z")
Have you replaced your PCV valve. This will cause excessive fuel burn. How many miles on this car? ---
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/4 "2014-03-30T18:22:13Z")
I agree that, as a first step, the OP should replace the PCV valve and flush out the PCV hose with an appropriate solvent. A gunked-up PCV system can definitely lead to excessive **oil** burning and/or leaking. If that doesn’t work, then the OP will have to decide how much he is willing to spend on repairing a 13 year old car. The repairs could well involve tearing down the engine in order to replace piston rings, valve guide seals, and…God only knows what else. Personally, I question whether that type of expense would be a worthwhile “investment” on a car of this age. Depending on how the engine was maintained, it is also possible that the main bearings are shot, so it is very possible that tearing down this engine will be an exercise of great expense with a vehicle that has only a limited life left under the best of circumstances. Incidentally, the reason why the OP is not seeing oil smoke is that it is being “eaten” by the catalytic converter, so failure to rectify the oil burning problem a.s.a.p. will probably necessitate replacement of the cat converter, and that can be pricey. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/5 "2014-03-30T21:40:00Z")
Sure, the cat is suffering . . . but OP said there are no codes It seeems the cat isn’t bad enough to throw a P0420 just yet A full tuneup, plus a PCV valve seem to be in order ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/6 "2014-03-30T21:42:16Z")
_"A full tuneup, plus a PCV valve seem to be in order "_ Yeah. And probably a new set of oil rings. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/7 "2014-03-30T21:45:20Z")
A tuneup and a pcv valve are cheap OP will know soon enough if the problem remains I’d certainly try the cheap tuneup before giving up on the car and/or tearing down the engine ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/8 "2014-03-30T21:58:54Z")
I wasn’t suggesting that the engine should be torn down. I was just being a pessimist. I’m often pretty good at that. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/9 "2014-03-30T22:07:42Z")
I’m also a member of the club ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/10 "2014-03-30T22:21:32Z")
I’ve actually got an oil burner right now. The PCV has been dealt with. I’m not tearing the engine down. But I am probably going to try some “unstick the rings” methods with my fingers crossed that they are stuck - rather than just burned up. Other than that, it will just be driven 'til it won’t go anymore. This is a Neon of the same age and I’d say the same about a Prism of this age. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/11 "2014-03-30T22:24:34Z")
@cigroller‌ Here’s an article about oil consumption, and some ideas on how to possibly resolve it > **[032014\_08.pdf](https://www.motor.com/magazinepdfs/032014_08.pdf)** > > 152.54 KB ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/12 "2014-03-30T22:47:56Z")
Hey, thanks db. It has no leaks to speak of, but does have a “shady” history. But it was cheap. These apparently aren’t widely known to have oil consumption issues (this one is doing the 1qt per 6-700 miles or so). But they are known for a poor PCV design that leaves a constant pool of oil in the intake manifold where the PCV enters. I’ve had that puddle of oil, and have rigged a catch can system to try to get rid of it. I know it spent some time doing mostly short trip city driving and has sat a lot. My minds eye sees a lot of gunk build-up in there. I’m thinking of an MMO soak on the the piston tops and and a general top end decarbonization of some kind. Though I wonder about that “X-66” stuff in the article. I don’t know. I figure the worst I can do is not change anything, and I get to tinker along the way. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/13 "2014-03-30T23:43:47Z")
Is this one of the re-badged Corollas? If so I think this vintage engine had pistons that were prone to coking around the oil control rings. Only a very conservative oil change regime and/or synthetic oil kept these from becoming oil burners. The OP might have done the standard 5000 mile oil change combined with a lot of short trips and stop-and-go driving. If it were mine I’d pull the plugs and fill the cylinders with a solvent overnight, then change the oil. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/14 "2014-03-31T00:27:50Z")
@circuitsmith‌ I believe the engine you’re referring to is the 7A-FE 4 banger with a timing belt My last car had that engine, and it used COPIOUS amounts of oil, in spite of the fact that I tried to keep it in tip top shape, mechanically speaking OP’s engine is a completely different design, but yes, the car is basically a Corolla. The Corolla and the Prizm were both built at the same factory. Different sheet metal and interior trim, but the mechanicals are identical That said, it may very well have its own problems ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/15 "2014-03-31T01:10:10Z")
Evanto, we need to hear from you!!! We have some questions. ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/16 "2014-03-31T02:31:58Z")
Well, the oil has to be going somewhere. If it isn’t leaking onto the ground, or going into the coolant, or being splattered all over the engine compartment b/c the oil cap or dipstick fell off or something, then the oil must be going out the tailpipe. The cat is probably burning it up first, so there’s no visible smoke out the tailpipe. But this process is hard on the cat, and will ruin the cat eventually. Servicing the PCV and a general tune-up to bring all routine maintenance up to date as advised above is great place to start. A wet vs dry compression test is probably in order too. ---
**Author:** ![the\_same\_mountainbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@the\_same\_mountainbike](https://community.cartalk.com/u/the_same_mountainbike)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/17 "2014-03-31T02:54:14Z")
I support the PCV recommendations. But I don’t see it causing a quart every 200 miles burn rate. Honestly, the first thing I’d do is a compression check. My guess is that the numbers will reveal the problem. Hopefully the OP will return an answer some of the questions. Hopefully this isn’t another driveby. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 5:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/18 "2014-03-31T05:41:07Z")
mountainbike has a good point OP’s car uses shims for the valve lash, and most guys don’t check the valve lash No offense intended to anybody Tight valves could cause low compression . . . I’ve personally seen it As for oil consumption, I’d rather not have tight valves ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 6:32am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/19 "2014-03-31T06:32:53Z")
Some 2000-2002 Corolla/Prizm cars are known to have an oil consuption problem. > **[2001 Chevrolet Prizm engine problems](https://www.carcomplaints.com/Chevrolet/Prizm/2001/engine/)** > > 2001 Chevrolet Prizm engine problems with 112 complaints from Prizm owners. The worst complaints are excessive oil consumption, check engine light stays on, and hesitation after cold starts. I believe the pistons were redesigned to correct this. ---
**Author:** ![circuitsmith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/circuitsmith/32/40376_2.png) [@circuitsmith](https://community.cartalk.com/u/circuitsmith)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396/20 "2014-03-31T23:25:18Z")
@db490, [this link](http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/131-8th-generation-1998-2002/402362-diy-oil-consumption-fix.html) shows a DIY piston fix of the '98-'02 1ZZ-FE engine (timing chain). [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/2001-chevy-prizm-lsi-burns-tons-of-oil/84396.md?page=2)