# 1998 accord w/198k miles - rough going from 1st to 2nd **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** transmissions, accord, honda\ **Created:** [July 28, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162 "2009-07-28T21:47:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jjdesi4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@jjdesi4](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jjdesi4)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162/1 "2009-07-28T21:47:53Z")
Hello, hoping someone can give some insight before taking my car to the mechanic. I have a 1998 Honda Accord LX with automatic transmission and roughly 199K miles on it. As of a few days ago, I started noticing a jolt/rough upshift from 1st to 2nd gear. This only happens when the engine has been running for a while; at start-up the car, the upshift from 1st to 2nd is smooth. I have no problems with downshifting or going from 2nd higher. Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162/2 "2009-07-28T22:18:05Z")
When, if ever, was the last time the transmission fluid was serviced? Tester ---
**Author:** ![waterboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/waterboy/32/764_2.png) [@waterboy](https://community.cartalk.com/u/waterboy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162/3 "2009-07-28T23:10:23Z")
Not to mention basic maintenance items as outlined in the manual. Plugs filters belts, fluids etc. ---
**Author:** ![jjdesi4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@jjdesi4](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jjdesi4)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162/4 "2009-07-29T02:54:14Z")
It looks like it’s not that the motor is warm that causes it, more like the amount of shifts between the gears. In the morning I was stuck in traffic for about 20 miles which took 1+ hr to cover and had to go through a lot of 1st to 2nd upshifts. In the afternoon, with no traffic (no stop and go driving) after 20 miles I came to a street light and on acceleration there was no jolt/rough upshift. As seen below, my last ATF change was 8k miles ago. 198K - replaced cracked radiator, added new coolant, replaced front rotors/pads, replaced rear brake shoes 190k - change ATF 197k - oil/filter change (and going back every 3-4k) 186k - new starter 170k - spark plugs, air filter, ATF, coolant, EFI cleaner, distributor cap/rotor 161k - ATF, front brake pads, clean rear brakes 143k - new cat. converter, replaced 3x evap valves 123k - front brake pads, clean rear brakes 113k - replace timing belt, water pump, drive belts, V/C gasket, seals 112k - ATF, EFI cleaner, coolant, distributer cap/rotor, spark plug wire set ---
**Author:** ![missileman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/missileman/32/1366_2.png) [@missileman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/missileman)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162/5 "2009-07-29T17:07:09Z")
Have your transmission checked to see if it has a filter. If it does, have the ATF drained and the filter replaced. ---
**Author:** ![jjdesi4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@jjdesi4](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jjdesi4)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162/6 "2009-07-30T13:32:54Z")
The 1998 transmission doesn’t have a serviceable filter that I myself can change; the transmission would have to be opened up. I’m going to change the ATF on Saturday. Since the hour long stop-and-go traffic a few days ago I haven’t had such rough upshifts primarily because I haven’t been stuck in traffic. ---
**Author:** ![transman618](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/transman618/32/24_2.png) [@transman618](https://community.cartalk.com/u/transman618)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1998-accord-w-198k-miles-rough-going-from-1st-to-2nd/34162/7 "2009-07-30T18:51:34Z")
One other thing, MAKE SURE YOU USE HONDA FLUID!!! This is very important with Hondas. transman