# 1995 Plymouth Voyager - Won't run hot **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** plymouth\ **Created:** [July 20, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387 "2024-07-20T17:01:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mel15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mel15](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mel15)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/1 "2024-07-20T17:01:17Z")
Hey has anyone had a problem with a 95 Plymouth voyager where the carcstarts and runs and when it gets to a certain temperature it will shut down and stop pulling then when you let it cool off it runs again but the car never over heats ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/2 "2024-07-20T17:34:31Z")
> [@Mel15](#): > > Hey has anyone had a problem with a 95 Plymouth voyager where the carcstarts and runs and when it gets to a certain temperature it will shut down **and stop pulling** then when you let it cool off it runs again but the car never over heats Please explain a little more?? Does the engine turn off, or the transmission stop moving the vehicle?? What engine, and is it a 3 or 4 speed automatic?? (since you didn’t say clutch slipping) ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/3 "2024-07-20T19:12:06Z")
> [@Mel15](#): > > when it gets to a certain temperature it will shut down… then when you let it cool off it runs again but the car never over heats No experience w/your make/model/year, but I had that exact problem with a VW Rabbit. The cause was a faulty fuel pump relay. ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/4 "2024-07-20T20:51:36Z")
A bad crankshaft position sensor can cause that. ![2CRK0094_01](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/c/9/c9c0f51990a0d489dd894a0233a2db84ab39a93f.jpeg) > **[Bad Crankshaft Position Sensor Symptoms & Problems](https://www.1aauto.com/content/articles/bad-or-failing-crankshaft-position-sensor-symptoms)** > > Problems with the crankshaft sensor will often present as problems with engine timing. If you think your sensor has failed, here are some common symptoms of a bad crankshaft sensor that can help you in determining whether or not it has failed. Tester ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/5 "2024-07-20T22:45:03Z")
> [@Mel15](#): > > it will shut down **and stop pulling** Like @davesmopar I’d say you need to be more descriptive. “shut down” to me means that the car stalls while “stop pulling” means it keeps running but won’t “go.” Those are two _ **really** _ different things. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/6 "2024-07-20T22:47:17Z")
> [@Mel15](#): > > and when it gets to a certain temperature it will And what is that temperature?? ---
**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/7 "2024-07-21T00:20:24Z")
This sounds to me like the engine keeps running, but the vehicle won’t move anymore. Most likely this is due to a loss of hydraulic pressure inside the transmission, due to worn seals, etc. **But I would first check to see if the transmission fluid is full, and in good condition, i.e. not burned or discolored.** If it hasn’t been changed in a long time, I’d let down the pan, change the fluid and filter, and see if the situation improves. **Use only licensed ATF+4, NEVER use Dexron/Mercon or any of the so-called “multi-vehicle” transmission fluids that are available.** The lowest-cost option for licensed ATF+4 is the SuperTech brand at Wal-Mart. If that doesn’t solve the problem, you basically have two options. If this van is still in good cosmetic condition, and runs well (other than the transmission), it might be worth spending a few grand to have it rebuilt. Otherwise, time to call a junkyard to haul it away. ---
**Author:** ![Nevada\_545](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/nevada_545/32/41232_2.png) [@Nevada\_545](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Nevada_545)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/8 "2024-07-21T01:14:49Z")
> [@bcohen2010](#): > > Otherwise, time to call a junkyard to haul it away. Wouldn’t you be interested in the van? Replace the fuel pump, then drive it home. Could have a 2.5 liter engine. ---
**Author:** ![Mel15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mel15](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mel15)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/9 "2024-07-21T03:50:25Z")
The fuel pump has been replaced and it was still doing it what else could it be ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/10 "2024-07-21T04:38:06Z")
> [@Mel15](#): > > The fuel pump has been replaced and it was still doing it It was still doing what exactly? Stalling? Engine running, but the car wouldn’t accelerate? And what do you mean by “stop pulling” . . . ? ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 4:43am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/11 "2024-07-21T04:43:39Z")
Flibbert gibbititiz. Blaggdadg blowfish. Shizzle-ma-gibitz. In other words - if you want help, then give a better description of the issue. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/12 "2024-07-21T05:14:43Z")
> [@Mel15](#): > > The fuel pump has been replaced and it was still doing it what else could it be You have been asked multiple questions and have yet to answer any of them… IF you want HELP, then please help us by answering our questions, other wise you are just throwing darts at a dartboard and maybe something sticks… We don’t have a magic crystal ball , so help us help you… ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/13 "2024-07-21T21:15:32Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > what do you mean by “stop pulling” . . . ? Ray & Tom encountered this comment by one of the show’s callers & didn’t understand. Recent podcast. They asked the caller what they meant by “ ~~reduced power~~ stop pulling”? “Stop pulling” means the engine still runs, but with markedly reduced power. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/14 "2024-07-21T22:22:43Z")
I don’t think the 95 Voyager has a reduced power, the A413 3 speed auto is not electronically controlled, so don’t remember how or even if it acts in limp mode, but the A604 4 speed automatic is electronically controlled and IF it goes in limp (home) mode, the transmission goes to 2nd gear and does not shift, no 1st, 3rd or 4th, 2nd gear only to get you home or a shop, or safely off the road and wait for a tow… This is probably an OBDI system, don’t think it even has limp home mode…(??) Again, we need the OP to answer questions… ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/15 "2024-07-22T00:20:50Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > the A604 4 speed automatic is electronically controlled and IF it goes in limp (home) mode, the transmission goes to 2nd gear and does not shift, no 1st, 3rd or 4th, 2nd gear only to get you home or a shop, or safely off the road and wait for a tow… I can attest to that! (Mine was a Caravan - same thing, of course). > [@davesmopar](#): > > This is probably an OBDI system, don’t think it even has limp home mode…(??) Mine was OBDI - limp home mode was parking the trans in 2nd. What I wouldn’t have done for an OBDII at the time (or anything I could read). It was a great van. The A604 got a bad rap, but as far as I can tell if you kept up with fluid / filter changes they did just fine. On mine, random / unpredictable errors put it in 2nd gear/limp mode. I fussed with it a bunch, but alas, it wasn’t “great” enough - at like 20 yrs old - to pay a shop for diags. I think I donated it. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/16 "2024-07-22T01:13:04Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > “Stop pulling” means the engine still runs, but with markedly reduced power. I’m kind of surprised that you’re so sure what op meant . . . considering they haven’t clarified I have learned as a technician to NOT assume I know what the customer meant, if there is any doubt Better to talk to them directly, because they often mean something completely different that what you were assuming ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/17 "2024-07-22T18:32:18Z")
> [@db4690](#): > > I’m kind of surprised that you’re so sure what op meant . . . considering they haven’t clarified That’s what the caller on the podcast said he meant by “stop pulling”. Of course you are correct that the podcast caller isn’t speaking for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![bcohen2010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bcohen2010](https://community.cartalk.com/u/bcohen2010)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/18 "2024-07-23T00:31:08Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > I don’t think the 95 Voyager has a reduced power, the A413 3 speed auto is not electronically controlled, so don’t remember how or even if it acts in limp mode, but the A604 4 speed automatic is electronically controlled and IF it goes in limp (home) mode, the transmission goes to 2nd gear and does not shift, no 1st, 3rd or 4th, 2nd gear only to get you home or a shop, or safely off the road and wait for a tow… I am very familiar with these vans, having owned not one but two 1995 Caravans–a 3.0L and a 2.5L, both with the 3-speed automatic. This transmission is not computer-controlled. I never had any problems with the transmission in either vehicle, but I always changed the fluid and filter at a reasonable interval, using the recommended ATF+4. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/19 "2024-07-23T00:58:03Z")
> [@bcohen2010](#): > > This transmission is not computer-controlled Correct, as I said, the A413 3 speed is not electronically controlled, but the A604 has been electronically controlled since 1989… The 1995 2.5 came with the A413, the 3.0 came with either the A413 or the A604 and the 3.3 came with the A604… (not counting the few with stick shifts)… But yeah, I have replaced more axles and motor mounts in them then I care to remember… I could set the rack lift the Caravans and have both axles on the floor in 10 minutes back in the day… lol The point is, we don’t know what engine the OP has, much less what transmission… We pushed our 99 GC A604 to 196930 miles with only changing the fluid once due to a VB issue, and it was abused most of it’s life… lol ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387/20 "2024-07-23T01:09:20Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > the 3.3 came with the A604… I’m pretty sure my '95 was a 3.8? Or am I not remembering that correctly? It certainly had the A604. And it was a great van - that 3.8 packed plenty of punch. My ‘00 was a 3.3 with the A604 was also a great van. Got taken out by a deer - just in time for my wife and I to get out of mini-vans (!) since the kids were…well, not kids anymore. There are still times when I miss the minivan tho’. Pull the seats out (or these days just fold them into the floor) and you had a covered pick-up bed back there. I hauled a lot of stuff, including things like sheetrock and plywood in those things. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1995-plymouth-voyager-wont-run-hot/195387.md?page=2)