# 1978 Volkswagen Van - Brake disc chatter help request **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** volkswagen\ **Created:** [November 3, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158 "2018-11-03T16:59:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kerry42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c77e96/32.png) [@Kerry42](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Kerry42)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/1 "2018-11-03T16:59:43Z")
Hi I am restoring a 1978 vw westfalia that is a work in progress over the last 3 years. One persistent issue is front disc brake chatter. The entire front end has been replaced including new discs and calipers with no improvement. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/2 "2018-11-04T17:41:29Z")
What brand brake pads? Have you lubed the sliders? ---
**Author:** ![Kerry42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c77e96/32.png) [@Kerry42](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Kerry42)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/3 "2018-11-04T17:56:50Z")
EMPI disc brakes including pads. I did lube sliders but can do that again ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/4 "2018-11-04T18:52:34Z")
Have you posted this on thesamba and vwvortex? ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/5 "2018-11-04T19:14:49Z")
Have you checked the front wheel bearing adjustments? Tester ---
**Author:** ![George\_San\_Jose1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@George\_San\_Jose1](https://community.cartalk.com/u/George_San_Jose1)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/6 "2018-11-05T02:52:04Z")
Try replacing all the rubber brake lines for the front brakes. Also measure the disc run-out. Even if the discs are ok the hub or bearing could still be problematic. ---
**Author:** ![db4690](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/db4690/32/2583_2.png) [@db4690](https://community.cartalk.com/u/db4690)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/7 "2018-11-05T02:55:17Z")
> [@George\_San\_Jose1](#): > > Even if the discs are ok the hub or bearing could still be problematic. Aren’t the rotors and hub the same thing on this van . . . ? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ok4450](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ok4450](https://community.cartalk.com/u/ok4450)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:34am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/1978-volkswagen-van-brake-disc-chatter-help-request/128158/8 "2018-11-05T04:34:55Z")
My vote is for checking the wheel bearing adjustment. It can be touchy on these.